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Keepers and Leavers: Who do you want to keep?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Angkor Wat, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. Angkor Wat

    Angkor Wat Member

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    Keepers
    Kyle Lowry
    Kevin Martin
    Luis Scola
    Terrence Williams
    Chuck Hayes

    Leavers
    Aaron Brooks
    Chase Budinger
    Jordan Hill
    Patrick Patterson
    Brad Miller

    It Doesn't Matterers
    Courtney Lee
    Ish Smith
    Yao Ming
    Shane Battier

    So, who is on your list?
     
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  2. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Keepers



    Leavers

    anybody.
     
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  3. Pete Chilcutt

    Pete Chilcutt Contributing Member

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    Honestly anyone can be traded.

    I just want to get better..
     
  4. s2kboy16

    s2kboy16 Member

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    ^^^ THIS ^^^
     
  5. Braga

    Braga Rookie

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    No one should be untouchable right now. Trade whoever you have too to get star talent.
     
  6. javal_lon

    javal_lon Member

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    LOL...couldnt have said it better myself
     
  7. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

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    Martin is in the top ten in league scoring with low volume, I don't think he's tradable for less than an All-Star
     
  8. emjohn

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    I'd be excited to see Miller, Brooks, and Jeffries gone

    I'm not against Chase, Hill, or Patterson going so long as it nets us a bonafide starter in return

    I'd prefer we hold on to Martin/Scola unless we're getting a serious chip back

    Honestly, there are no untouchables on the roster if we have the chance to land a honest to god franchise guy. But the market is pretty bare.

    I think our best hope is for a Gerald Wallace type - good starter, but not worth giving up Scola/Martin/Lowry for.
     
  9. CCorn

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    Keepers
    PatPat
    Chuck to teach Patpat

    Leavers
     
  10. srrm

    srrm Contributing Member

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    Keepers
    Kyle Lowry - Young and solid contributor. We'll need his energy for when we get our alpha dog
    Kevin Martin - He is a great 2nd option. Getting a real first option (who plays defense) beside him would work well
    Patrick Patterson - Very impressive and young. Assuming it takes 2-3 years to climb back to relevancy, he has a good chance to develop into a solid/consistent player to glue our future roster

    Leavers
    Aaron Brooks
    Chase Budinger
    Jordan Hill
    Brad Miller
    Luis Scola - Worried about his age and more about the mileage. I hope it never happens, but he's overdue for an injury

    It Doesn't Matterers
    Courtney Lee
    Ish Smith
    Yao Ming
    Shane Battier
    Terrence Williams
    Chuck Hayes
    Jared Jeffries
     
  11. Spacemoth

    Spacemoth Contributing Member

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    I think Lowry, Martin, and Patterson are the ones I can see contributing to a championship-quality team a few years down the line. T-Will has potential, but it would probably be best to play him to see how far he could go then deal him when he peaks. No matter how good he gets, he's going to be a SG-who-needs-to-dominate-the-ball type player, yes he can pass, but no he is not a pure point. Those types of players might have gaudy stats but won't be winning championships (unless they had the talent of a Lebron at which point we would have seen it from miles away, back in middle school).
     
  12. Roxdoc

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    Keepers:

    Kevin Martin
    PPat

    Ehhh:
    Scola

    Tradables:
    Everybody Else
     
  13. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

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    Keep
    Martin
    Lowry
    Hayes

    Meh
    Lee
    Scola
    Smith

    GTFO
    Everybody else
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

    AroundTheWorld Insufferable 98er
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    Keepers
    Kyle Lowry
    Chuck Hayes
    Patrick Patterson
    Luis Scola (unless we can get a very high draft pick or a player with superstar potential at least)
    Shane Battier (I know this won't happen and I'm in the minority on this...but after we trade him, I hope we bring him back next season somehow)
    Kevin Martin (keep him unless we get a superstar)

    It Doesn't Matterers
    Yao Ming (assuming that we would only trade his contract but bring him back next season)
    Courtney Lee
    Ish Smith
    Terrence Williams

    Leavers
    Aaron Brooks
    Chase Budinger
    Jordan Hill
    Brad Miller

    Obviously, it depends on what you can get. If a superstar (like Chris Paul or Deron Williams) were to become available, every keeper becomes a leaver.
     
  15. JLOBABYDADDY

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    I tend to agree with this list except for Shane. Our only problem is DM has shot himself in the foot with all of these assets. Guys like Scola, Hayes, AB, and even Martin are all underpaid in terms of market value vs production. If you compare their salaries to those of players in the league with similar stats/production, you will see why it is so hard to move them. A $2-3M player in exchange for AB works on paper, but anyone who follows the rockets would say "Awww Hell Nawww"! Same with a giving up Martin straight up and his 23ppg for someone like idk shooting guard x who makes the same amount of money @12ppg.

    Don't even get me started on scola. He is a legit $12-13M guy at 19&8 a game (fair market value) but you will only get a $7M guy in return for him or worse, 2 $3-4M scrubs in exchange for Scola.
     
  16. mlwoo

    mlwoo Contributing Member

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    I still love Aaron and he still my dad and I still want to hug him no matter what anybody else says.
     
  17. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Contributing Member

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    Better comparison would probably be Wade but agreed.
     
  18. MadRox

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    Keep:
    Defensive players that is not a total offensive liability....
    Lowry, Chuck, Battier, Lee, Patterson, Williams, Yao

    Leave:
    Everybody Else
     
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  19. ClutchCityReturns

    ClutchCityReturns Contributing Member

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    Honestly, I would only be the least bit saddened by the loss of...

    Scola
    Hayes
    Lowry
    Patterson
    Battier

    Basically, the true hustle players. I couldn't really care much less about losing anyone else at this point.
     
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  20. Possum

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    My thoughts exactly!
     

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