wait, you're missing the point. we didn't have hurricane force winds in houston because of katrina, did we??? at some point, as you go farther away from the center, you have slower winds. this is especially true to the north and west of where it makes landfall, assuming you're in the affected area at all. the meterologists who clock wind where the levees broke in two places are saying they never experienced anything above Cat 1 conditions there. now, i wasn't there to verify that. i haven't examined them under oath. but i've heard multiple sources report on this. remember that before they knew the levees broke, we were all going, "whew...NOLA just missed the big one!" the storm was turning east and weakening as it made landfall. again, i'm not suggesting this wasn't a killer storm. i'm suggesting that where the levees broke didn't experience anything above cat 1 force winds. i'm also suggesting that, even at its best, it made landfall as a cat 3 on the LA/MS border. even if that had made landfall directly on NOLA, the people of NOLA were told that the levees would survive a Cat 3 hurricane.
There will never be another Katrina, because there will never be another Lake Ponchatrain...and by that I mean people knew the levees were bad for years...I remember my boss (from the area growing up) stating the lake with the danger is the concern on a direct hit before it even happened. I hate how protection is not acted on till great loss of life...There should have been smart people in govt. who would connect the dangers way, way, way (years) before 9/11 and in used precautions and tactics ahead of time...same with Katrina...I know everyone likes to "blame Bush" for everything, but in these examples other administrations have failed us (Bush as well to some degree pre 9/11...My only consolation is the tactics on the war on terror- post 9/11 I believe in!) the levees should have been examined a long time ago. Bush's failing was hiring an incompetent person over FEMA...Now we realize it is a very IMPORTANT position. Perhaps that wasn't the realization pre-Katrina... Katrina also reinforced the importance of at least stocking emergency supplies for temp. self preservation...As well as having a household firearm defense plan...A shotgun, handgun, and semi-automatic .223 carbine with plenty of ammo and mags form an excellent trio. for example: shotgun-remington 870 pistol-glock of your choice caliber (9mm and up) .223 carbine-Bushmaster
The bottom line is that the levees were supposed to withstand a Cat 3 hurricane when Katrina made landfall it was a borderline cat 3/4 hurricane. The strongest winds and storm surge were too the east and south so what hit NOLA wasn't near that level but theorectically the levees should've been able to withstand a cat 3. Looking at it it should be obviously that there were some serious design flaws in the levee systems and the levees were no where near as strong as what they were supposed to be designed for.
Your gun fetish is disturbing to say the least. Borderline psychotic. I seriously think you have a chemical imbalance in your brain or something.
anyone watch the spike lee documentary. there was footage of bush in two different meeting being warned of the levees possibly not holding.
yeah..i watched the first half the other day. still trying to work myself up to watch the second half. that's tough stuff. yeah, they all knew that. hell, i knew it. literally weeks before it happened i was talking with an employee of mine who is from louisiana about how this was ultimately inevitable. very eerie when it did, though.
yeah when disaster happens in houston at least we are warned not to knock at roxrans house and ask for any help or even a glass of water.. unless you want to experience and compare how it feels to be shot with three different guns at the same time..
Right, but it wasn't the wind that broke the levees was it? It was the storm pushing back all the water from Lake ponchutrain....since the wind would be coming from the northeast. That was my understanding. Plus all the ocean surge being pushed into Lake Ponchutrain.
absolutely it was. no question. the problem is, the people of NOLA aren't all meterologists. they're told that cat 3 hurricane can be withheld by the levees. they didn't get a cat 3 storm there, and they still didn't hold. bottom line is the ACE is saying the levees weren't built properly. what more do we need to talk about? the people of NOLA were failed by every level of government, and that cost lives.
What is so difficult to understand? The levees were supposed to withstand a Cat 3 hurricane. Katrina hit land at a Cat 1. The levees broke anyway. The ACE has said they screwed up when it came to the levees. Everyone knows that Katrina was a bad storm but it was nothing like it could have been. The bottom line is that the man made levees were flawed and they broke when they should not have. Can you explain what you are still arguing?
i think the point here is that it wasn't katrina that caused the levee to fail, it was incidental, water had been leaking under the levee for a year prior to the failure. failure of the levee was inevitable. in a ****ed up way, katrina may have actually <i>saved</i> lives, since the city was largely evacuated when the failure occured. none of which excuses the obvious incompetence at various levels of government.
the winds that hit nola were weak cat 1, but the storm surge was cat 3 level due to the size of the storm. if katrina had hit nola like it hit mississippi with the dirty side there would be any talk of rebuilding the city it would be gone.
By that I mean the levees should be fixed, and if it wasn't for that the disaster wouldn't have been...
