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Kareem Jackson's Starting Job is Safe

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by thelasik, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. mvpcrossxover

    mvpcrossxover Member

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    how did the jet end up with cromartie and revis, wtf man, our d coach is just straight up stupid
    should we give jackson one more year or no?
     
  2. Phillyrocket

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    It's easy to pick on Jackson but the whole D is horrible. Cushing is MIA, two tackles yesterday, Mario has what one sack in four games? Okoye hasn't pressured a QB since his rookie year, Pollard and Diles continually get smoked in coverage, Wilson shouldn't even be allowed to put on a NFL jersey.....

    We are really missing Ryans leadership and Barwins balls out effort but the D has been a joke all season, Bush needs to be fired.

    We're giving up 400 yards a game worst in the league, 300 passing yards per game worst in the league, 3rd worst in points, on and on and on.
     
  3. OremLK

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    Anyway, I think Jackson is really being scapegoated when every single guy in the secondary is playing poorly.

    The issue is the coaching.
     
  4. Hey Now!

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    I'm not defending him; just wondering if others think his (stubborn?) allegiance to Jackson is odd given what *we* see. Is it possible Jackson is doing everything right and the pass rush and/or safeties are the bigger issue? I have no idea.
     
  5. rhino17

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    Jackson is getting beat almost immediately. A great pass rush won't help that. He is losing his man at the line of scrimmage more than any DB I have ever seen
     
  6. Mr. Space City

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    you can't put a rookie corner out there with no veteran leadership, poor defensive scheme, no pass rush, and no help up top from the safeties and expect him to be great.

    i bet kyle wilson wouldn't be that much better than kareem if he played for the texans. kyle has the benefit one of the best pass rushes in the league and learning from some the best cornerbacks in the league.

    it comes down to coaching and development.
     
  7. vinsensual

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    Can't wait to catch the Kubiak facepalm when Kareem gets jet engine burnt by Desean.
     
  8. v3.0

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    You just blamed the individual players, but want to fire the DC.

    I'm just saying we went through this before with Richard Smith, how many DC we need to fire until we realize it's the players not stepping up.

    Granted, I think Bush deserves blame too, but I don't recall too many times where I've heard the defense was caught in the wrong coverage or the wrong defensive formation. I just keep hearing so and so individual players making this mistake, missing that tackle, dropping INTs, falling down a lot, no sacks or hurries, so on and so forth...
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    I think it's possible yes, but I think it's also possible that Jackson really just isn't playing well and that Kubiak should give other guys a chance.

    I think Kubiak tends to be stubborn in making changes in his starters. We saw this with Steve Slaton, when he wasn't benched until DEEP into the season last year.
     
  10. Phillyrocket

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    Coaching is also about motivation and the D has ZERO intensity. Our schemes IMO are vanilla and our players are not being put in a position to succeed like moving Cush to MLB.
     
  11. Mr. Space City

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    steve young called frank bush and this defense out on mnf and said that defensively the texans dont challenge the quarterback mentally.

    just basic vanilla defensive schemes that qbs can instantly figure out and dissect easily.
     
  12. underrated015

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    owner is conservative
    coach is conservative
    sticking to the players that get burnt every freaking long pass is plain stupid. okay u believe in the kid. are u gonna keep going with him when we get ran off the field against better opponents.
    please just fire the defensive coach and bring in wade phillips. one of the coaches has to go. end of rant: :grin:
     
  13. TheDreams

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    LoL of course we should. You would be willing to give up on your first round pick after one year?
     
  14. gucci888

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    Not to mention they also drafted Kyle Wilson who was considered the best cover CB in the draft. I was pretty upset when we passed on Wilson for Kareem, but was more pissed than anything when Smith didn't address the secondary at all after that.
     
  15. A_3PO

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    My comment on your earlier post is that asking "is Kubiak...really really dumb" and saying he probably sees something the rest of us don't adds absolutely nothing to the debate and is basically worthless on a discussion forum. That line of reasoning can be used each and every time a coach makes strange personnel decisions like this one.
     
  16. Cannonball

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    I'm pissed that one of the major reasons we chose Jackson over Wilson or McCourty was because supposedly he was the most ready to come in and start right away. Fat lot of good that decision did us. I don't know if Wilson or McCourty would've done any better this year. Time will tell who is better in the long run, but if either or both of those guys end up being better, it's just another sign of incompetence coming from the Texans' brass, choosing to make a short term move that didn't even work out in the short term.
     
  17. v3.0

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    Maybe the players can't handle complex schemes and the coaches are trying to keep it simple for them. Now that Demeco is out, more than ever I would think they would keep it simple for Cushing and crew.

    I do disagree moving Cushing to MLB, you weakened 2 positions by moving him there, the MLB spot AND his old OLB spot.
     
  18. OremLK

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    And you think the DC has nothing to do with the quality of play his players put forth on the field, and only has an effect on the schemes he chooses?

    Maybe we've just never had a good DC. Ever think of that?
     
  19. v3.0

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    Maybe you missed this part of my post

    But wait a sec, so when Kareem repeatedly falls down at the line of scrimmage or Mario is not seen or heard for the majority of the game, the DC should take the blame, right?

    Maybe the players aren't stepping up. Ever think of that?
     
  20. OremLK

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    And why aren't they stepping up? What's going on behind the scenes? That's what I want to know. This team has too much talent, even on the defensive end, to be this bad. (Yes, I'll go so far as "bad". Their point differential is below average.)
     

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