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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    So far I've supported Biden's moves on Ukraine and I think he's done a good job. It's too early to call it his finest hour though.

    As I've been saying though this is a very difficult and dangerous situation that could very easily spin into something much worse. And what keeps me up at night is I don't know if anyone not just here on Clutchfans D&D to the Pentagon actually knows what will happen if the US and Russia starts shooting at each other.

    What I want to know though is for those who keep on calling Biden weak is what should Biden be doing then? Should he put in a no-fly zone? Should US troops go to Ukraine? It's just the usual, a lot of criticism but no solutions or alternatives.
     
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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    Many of them have long since given up any since of irony. I mean these are the same people who criticized Obama for playing too much golf and then defended when Trump would go play golf every weekend.
     
  3. Astrodome

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    It will serve Biden well to blame inflation on Putin.
     
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    you know inflation is your fault when you lose the support of Team Obama

     
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  5. Nook

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    He has thus far done very well at getting the West all on the same page and leading the NATO group. I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise. How will it look in two weeks? Who knows..... assuming that he cuts a deal with Venezuela or OPEC, what will the long term costs be for the USA? Who knows..... but so far he and his administration has appeared to be very competent and capable and the messaging has been appropriate.

    I don't think anyone knows. I would bet that even the two men making the decision (Putin and Biden) in their heart of hearts do not know what would happen.

    Biden hasn't been weak. He and the West is in a very difficult situation and I am sure that they have very real long term concerns no matter which course that they take. It appears that at a minimum there will be another Cold War between the USA/EU and China/Russia. From what I am seeing in Chinese media, I am not at all optimistic that China is going to long term pull themselves away from Russia.
     
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    "God damn Nazi dictator, Putin trying to destroy your Apple phones and your Tinder and what ever other **** people under 80 care about. He is responsible for all this inflation."
     
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    Americans aren't about those types of sacrifices.... what do you mean Big Mac's went up by 75 cents?
     
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    I'm glad that Biden has warned Americans that things are tough and might get very tough. I made this point about Trump's response to COVID-19 was that he never took any responsibility for anything that went wrong or prepared the country for the tough times that were inevitably ahead. Part of leadership is taking responsibility and not sugar coating things.
     
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    Why would he take responsibility for the effects of a virus that was China's doing? For months Trump was on the White House steps every afternoon at 3pm, taking all questions and talking about a game plan for handling the virus the best he could, at a time when there was WAY less info available then there was later.
     
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  11. VooDooPope

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    Best he could like saying it was no worse than the flu, going to just go away, or we needed to get light inside the body. At least now we have a president with half a brain instead of one with no brain at all. Biden may not be great but he's still 100% better than Drumph.
     
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    The state of the USA right now disagrees with you.
     
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    I would say him making fun of people wearing masks and supporting anti-lockdown protests created an air of "Covid isn't real" conspiracies. He was the cultural leader of anti-mask movements.
     
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  14. VooDooPope

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    And Drumph is as or more responsible for that state as Biden. Our government is a big ****ing ship and you can’t turn it around overnight especially when the last captain was intent on sinking it.
     
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    It was being steered just fine, Biden took a starboard turn straight into an iceberg.
     
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    You guys are all hyperbole with zero substance.

    Tell me exactly what Biden has done that took the United States government and drove it "straight into an iceberg." What the hell does that even mean?

    Oh let me guess... AFGHANISTAN!!... ahh... and you'll again not give specifics about what exactly he did you disagree with other than implying you'd do the same thing BUT BETTER!!!

    Spare us all the hyperbole with no substance please.
     
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    What has biden taken responsibility for? He blames everyone else all of the time. You could argue that trump was the same way and I would not disagree.
     
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  18. VooDooPope

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    Wrong
     
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    Is he supposed to take responsibility for:

    -A global pandemic that started in China under another administration
    -Vladamir Putin deciding to commit mass murder
    -Gas prices controlled by OPEC
    ???

    Biden has said before many times that "The buck stops with me" but it's absolutely ridiculous that the right and their media types like Doocey with FoxNews get all worked up trying to bully the White House into admitting they screwed up when they are making the best decisions they can with the circumstances effecting the world that are out of anyone's control but evil people like Putin, idiots who eat raw pangolins in a wet market, and greedy a$$ oil and gas executives that fund the GOP.

    Even Biden's worse "screw up" apparently was Afghanistan which was a situation where he was just performing the same plan that Donald freaking Trump had put in action, but Biden actually delayed it in order to do that plan with more strategic planning. Is Biden supposed to "take responsibility" for an apparent bad decision which is a decision literally every American except the Military Industrial Complex wanted and every politician campaigned on???

    Like I just really don't understand this take at all. What has happened that in a negative manner has happened because of a major Joe Biden policy decision???
     
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    Biden is a loser.
     

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