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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. astros123

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    I think this facination of "both sidesism" is whats really wrong with the average person thinking. They automatically are programmed to give the other side credit. Even @rocketsjudoka wanted to credit GOP on infrastructure like they had some plan to pass it. Just because something is talked about on DC for years doesn't mean its somehow bipartisan. Whoever passes the bill gets the credit.



    I don't think anyone has any idea how big of a deal the IRA was.
     
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    I don't know about the equating on positives as much as it is about negatives. Especially among younger people who want to seem cool, or socially versatile (a healthy thing as a species to naturally have alignment towards) so you want to make clear to everyone that you are reject something that immediately could be a device that makes us un-amiable.

    It's a healthy trait many people have as they start to become more socially versatile. However what is happening is propaganda is using that trait against the Democratic party and other Democratic liberal parties among the free world to suppress their involvement in politics or voting. The non-Democracies of the world want very much for liberal minded people, and especially young people to tune out of politics for the sake of maintaining that social versatility.

    ALL of politics suck so therefore you and I never have to worry about me not aligning to your personal nuances. I can be friends with you even though you don't know me yet.... etc. etc.

    A common phrase you've I'm sure heard is "I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative".... which when you break it down is that person telling everyone, I like all the positive stuff, and reject anything divisive. Talk about trying to have your cake and eat it too.

    In the end though, people like the previous poster are probably more liberal than they think, but are likely feeling social pressure in their lives to reject liberal politics in order to make them feel more comfortable in their social circles they'll be in moving forward.

    It's all more simple, and complex than it seems at the same time. The answer would be for Democratic parties around the world to try harder at Marketing, and being hip or cool. However even with all the money in the world, the private billionaire funded corporations like Facebook or even Disney have shown time and time again that being cool, and popular isn't always something you can just throw money at. Especially when there will always be billions more spent crapping on your coolness because they have an agenda.

    Disney is a prime example of a brand that has all the money in the world, but because of a billionaire funded agenda, even the most popular brand in the world can be divisive if you want it to be. Therefore it's hard to see Democracy or Democratic Parties not continuing to have issues with massive amounts of people like Pirc1 being influenced into this "both sides suck" narrative. As long as the non-democratic powers that be have any sort of funding to push the counter narrative, it'll be an issue that literally threatens Democracy by creating hive-mind non-participation.
     
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    I want to be clear though.... Biden.... or any Democrat for that matter SHOULD need to earn your vote.

    One could argue passing the most legislation in the modern era is doing that, but let's just say it's not.

    However, even if Biden doesn't earn your vote, he should if still if literally the only thing he does is preserve Democracy if someone like Trump is the only other candidate for Presidency. IT SHOULDN'T be this way, but unfortunately it is because the Republican party has given up trying to change their hardcore base, and instead is letting their hardcore autocratic base wag the dog.

    I'm sorry some of you have to vote for Biden if you don't like him. I really am. But if you like Democracy, you kind of have to. In normal times yeah... Biden or any Democrat should be doing everything they can to earn your vote. I think they will regardless but unfortunately they don't have to if the option is Democracy vs autocracy. Trump tried to overturn Democracy, and was even willing to use violence to stay in power. What in the hell do you think he will do to stay in power, and prevent a free and fair election the next time???

    I'm no fan of Mike Pence, or Nikki Haley, etc. but I hope for the sake of the country that Republican voters put them in so that voters like Pirc1 actually have a situation where the candidates can make a choice about policy positions, etc. and not literally having to vote for Democracy vs Autocracy. For the betterment of the country, I do hope that someone like Pence or even Haley gets the nomination and makes Biden have to earn your vote.
     
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    Biden is going beat trump in 24. Trump will be indicted by August and it will make him seal the nomination. He'll lose in the general agaisnt biden. I'm not concerned.

    I think Ted cruz has a chance of losing in 24. Trump is so poison in the suburbs
     
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    Trump is Biden or the Democrats best chance at a romp. He has lost every election since 2018 where he was the focus because he was the focus.

    But the electoral college is fickle, and it's always on the margins in the swing states. If enough people are convinced like Pirc1 is now... yeah... Trump in theory could eek out a victory.

    Also I don't think an indictment will stop him. The Constitution doesn't say anything about not being able to run if you are indicted or are even in prison. Also the clock is ticking. I don't think there's enough time for him to be sentenced by the time the election is held. Nor do I have any confidence Garland has the cohones to allow Jack Smith etc. to indict him on a truly serious charge that would make a difference. Campaign finance, state election laws, etc.... his voters don't give a rats ass about that.
     
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    You have no idea how a special council works. Do some research
     
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    If trump is indicted, the timing will have a huge impact, like you said. I also agree with you that Biden garnered a bunch of campaign money by his bank actions last weekend. Of course at this point, everything is up in the air but there is definitely a path for Joe in 2024.
     
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    Yeah I was listening to Mark cuban and he was stating how biden literally saved tens of billions of so many tech bros who owe biden big time. Mark said everyone just trusted SVB and they didn't hedge. Majority of payroll processors for San Francisco and silicon Valley were all in SVB. The entire tech industry parked all their cash at svb

    They're going all write biden a blank check. He literally saved silicon Valley in ways I don't think we fully understand right now. There's going be a documentary on this and biden probably saved the entire tech industry.
     
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    I voted for Biden, I would prefer if he didn't run in 2024 based on his age but the truth is the Dems haven't produced a front runner since Obama and I dont see anyone between now and then who could do it, plus I think Joe feels he has more to prove, he`s passed some great legislation, but dam dude, take a break and enjoy your last years. I can't begin to fathom the stress that this job has and I would hate to see anything happen to him. On a side note, does anyone think he will change out VP`s? I dont see it, I am not a huge fan of Harris but changing partners going into term 2 is unprecedented.
     
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    If you look at every big speech biden has had to do he performs best at that moment. He's given 6 major major speeches and after EVERY one his polling numbers go up. When the time comes he can give a great performance and good speech. People underestimate him and when he does a decent job people get blown away. I've posted these experiments before here with evidence.

    hes going legalize weed before 24 and do some more executive orders which will help him secure the early vote by huge margins.
     
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    What an obnoxiously combative response. Chill out dude.
     
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    Changing VP's would just cause unnecessary headline drama for the media. This last year, Biden and co. should give her some more assignments on more universally liked projects. Just try and do what they can to make her less divisive seeming even though I know she's really not the cartoonish horned devil the right makes her seem. You don't need to build her up into "The Next Obama" and if anything maybe they need to make her a bit more of a boring civil servant type.
     
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    Why do people take things so literally on these message boards ? I'm not trying be offensive sorry if I come across that way. We're simply having a discussion. I'm not trying be offensive lol

    We're all here having fun. I'm not trying belittle anyone. You're free to reply to me straightforwardly also.
     
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    It's all good
     
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    The point I was trying make was Jack Smith doesn't need any sort of permission from garland. Garland confirmed in a recent interview that Smith CAN indict without Garland approval and Garland will not micromanage him. I recommend you to watch Glenn on YouTube. He's a former us district attorney.



    Have you been paying attention to how aggressive jack Smith is? His grand jury subpoena show he's close to a federal indictment
     
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    Elaborate..... I think he has been a shockingly effective leader so far.
     
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    Hes so ineffective he's somehow bullied the major insulin manufacturers to all lower their prices without even passing legislation which will help tens of millions of Americans?

    Why can't people on these boards have sincere debates regarding policy about biden ? Why's it so difficult not to spin conspiracies
     
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    Because…
    WOKE
     
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    @Kim 2 trump judges sided agaisnt Florida. You had a point. He did select a few decent ones it seems. I was wrong earlier
     
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    Yea, but what has he done for the hard working billionaires?
     
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