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[Kahn] McGrady Needs to Shut Up and Play

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MystikArkitect, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. t_mac1

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    the 2007 choke job can be pointed to the fact that we missed 3 freaking defensive rebounds in the last 3 minutes. JVG admitted it.

    2008 was simply the cause of injuries. we would have gone far if everyone stayed healthy.
     
  2. tinman

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    You're right, I'm going to stop the Tmac in Orlando rant til someone pulls up that NBATV stuff again.
     
  3. wekko368

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    Seriously man...do your research before your post.

    Does the name "Weisbrod" mean anything to you?
     
  4. t_mac1

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    did you watch game 5? the jazz looked kinda scared and played a lot out of character. and game 6 was going in our favor until rafer alston re-injured himself and we have bobby jackson playing the whole 2nd half. but i'm sure you didn't watch the game.
     
  5. tinman

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    dude "If stay healthy" = if I got 2 more lotto numbers correct than I'd win.

    the health of Rockets is by far a huge concern and to me, more important than anything else this year.

    I could care less if we win 50 games in a row, I prefer we have a low seed with 100% health.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    are you saying tmac was satisfied with the 19 win team that year? seriously, have some common sense. weisbrod was the root of the problem, but he wanted out also b/c that team gave him zero help.
     
  7. wekko368

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    I watched all the games. I never felt the Rockets (w/o Yao) stood a chance against the Jazz.

    Btw, it makes you look foolish when you tell people they didnt watch the games. Especially since your posts are rife with errors.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    exactly, health is the main concern. adelman, alexander, morey, and the players all talked about it so far in training camp. there's no reason we can't play with the best if we are healthy.

    but again, if both of our stars get injured again this year, it's really time to trade them both. if tmac gets injured again, it shows he'll never be fully healthy again. if we do resign him, a lesser contract is obvious. if yao is injured again, there's no reason to believe he won't walk down the path of other big centers.

    so this is a really key year and will define where this organization goes in a few years.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    you never felt the rockets had a chance b/c you think this team has no chance without yao. you said even if this year if yao doesn't play, we wouldn't even make the 8th seed.

    so obviously, your responses have a lot of validity don't they?

    we all saw games 5 and 6. game 5 was a blowout and WE TOYED with them. game 6 was swinging to our favor in a major way until rafer suddenly re-injured himself. everyone saw that.
     
  10. wekko368

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    Common sense? Everytime we argue, yours is the logic thats flawed. Like right now...

    You're saying he left Orlando b/c he wants to win. However, in the past (circa 1996?), McGrady has said that he wants to retire when he's 30. Do those sound like the words of someone who wants to win? Does that sound like someone who has a real passion for the game?

    Btw, do you realize that the Orlando roster had Grant Hill? Sure, he was injured all the time, but its not like the Magic werent trying to build something.
     
  11. Nitro1118

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    A team oriented execution is much better than a one-man show...ask Kobe.

    As have the Pistons gotten easily disposed of by the Eastern Conference champs every year since 2005, and the Cavs have made it out of the 2nd round only once since LeBron's arrival.

    The Jazz are a better team than the Cavs, and I don't see how it really is even much of a question. The Pistons are arguable, but I also believe the Jazz are a better team (as are the new-look Rockets, Hornets, Lakers and Spurs).
     
  12. wekko368

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    My reponses are logically sound, so yes...they are valid.

    And if I did say that about the Rockets, it was before the Artest acquisition.


    Swinging to our favor in a major way? Exaggerate much?
     
  13. t_mac1

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    dude, that grant hill comment showed you don't know anything. are you serious with that comment? i'm not even going to respond.

    if he doesn't want to win, why would he mention teams with good big men at the time (yao and jermaine o'neal) as places where he wanted to go? why not go to another team where he'll have the spotlight all to himself? i mean, weisbrod could have traded him for #1 draft picks at the time b/c his stock was pretty high.

    and again, i never said tmac played with passion EVERY reg. season game. i have admitted numerous times he coasts during the reg. season in stretches. that's a fact. but he never hurt the team so far since our reg. season records have been great. i love for him to try harder. i criticized him several times last yr for coasting.

    but again, as long as he performs in the playoffs, i'm fine with him conserving himself in the reg. season. it's not an admirable thing, but tracy's injuries are part of the package.

    it's like yao this year. i expect him to coast in practice and some games to conserve himself.
     
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    no i am not exaggerating. we came back from a 20-pt or something deficit and going into the half down by like 3 or 4 (i don't remember correctly). tmac was on fire. our defense was locking down. the pressure was on the jazz to close us out. is that not swinging to our favor in a major way?
     
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    They were trying to build something, but when a guy making max misses every game, u cant build on that. When Mike Miller is ur 2nd best player, thats not building. When pat garrity is your one of your best players, nevermind.
     
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    The only thing it showed is that your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired. Grant Hill was one of the top five players in the game when the Magic acquired him. You don't get those kind of players if you're not trying to put together a winning team.
     
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    How many games did hill play. What about trading a rookie contract like maggette? The orlando team was garbage, straight up.
     
  18. AntiSonic

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    How many posts in this thread did you read?
     
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    My point was, the Magic tried to build a contending team but were hampered by injuries.

    You shouldn't respond to me. You always come at me with poor logic. Its a waste of both our times and it makes you look immature and uninformed.

    I'm guessing he just wanted to get out of Orlando. You didnt answer my question though. If he was so concerned about winning, why would he tell the media that he wanted to retire when he was 30?

    Do you have any idea how salaries and trades work?

    So you think a team should develop chemistry with a stable rotation (based on minutes played) during the regular season, but during the playoffs, they should drastically change everything up?

    Real smart.
     
  20. wekko368

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    We played good enough with rafer to come back from 20 pts down. We also played bad enough with rafer to go down by 20 pts.

    Tmac was on fire during the 2nd quarter, but that doesnt mean he would've sustained it in the 3rd quarter if rafer were there.

    No, that is not swining to our favor in a major way.
     

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