If you put a player like Snyder in, you can simply have him dog an opposing player, in this case Barbosa. I'll tell you this. Snyder may be a lunkhead and miss assignments. But Luther doesn't have a chance defensively. He is small and he is weak. And he loses his man constantly. Who do you think was defending Barbosa tonight? If what you are saying is true, then mental lapses are what buried us tonight. And I agree, it played a big role. A 35% shooter from the field, shooting a 17 footer with 20 seconds left on the shot clock and NOBODY back to rebound. That's off the chain man. Barbosa beat us with quickness and length. And he beat Luther and Rafer mostly with that quickness and length. Once he got past them, there is no way that Yao can deal with him at the rim with a full head of steam and no help. At least Kirk has size, length, and athleticism. He may not be as quick as Barbosa, but..........look what we got. And on the offensive end, at least Kirk will force the issue at the rim. Ahhhhh, I'm tired of making this argument. Just a totally stupid game.
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I don't think any secret weapon would play a determinant role in a 7-game series. Maybe JVG just was too shocked to figure it out tonight, just a guess .
Good posts, jopatmc. That was just for fun. I think we all need to relax a little bit after a defeat like this.
Yeah, I know. I ain't been this frustrated in a while. This is team is better than what they showed tonight and Van Gundy is a lot better coach than he showed tonight. But it all starts with the coach. It starts with the game strategy. Then if the strategy is good, you look at the effort, attitude, and execution by the players.
I like Kirk. I'd like him to play more, and I think JVG is too hard on him. You make some good arguments there. You convinced me; Kirk should have played tonight. Congrats. For the first time in the history of this BBS, a poster won an argument!
We face the Suns one more time, in our next to last game. It is the 2nd game of a short homestand and is NOT the 2nd game of a back to back. Let's hope the coaching strategy is much better.
If there isn't an adjustment, and we lose in the same fashion, I will definitely NOT be defending JVG on that one.
I hope no adjustment next time, then I will believe JVG saved all for the playoff. If there's adjustment next time, I will be very disappointed. Then it simply means JVG reacts slowly.
The heart of the Suns is Nash. If he’s worn out, we will win definitely. Then, what should we do to exhaust his energy? Offensive side: 1.When we begin our attack, the player who Nash guards should handle the ball or the other guys pass the ball to him and let him run and try to drive to the hoop first(it does not mean this player should be the end shooter); 2.At any time, once Nash guards a player, he must run faster and force Nash to run with him; 3.Everyone tries to make physical contacts with Nash. Defensive side: 1.One player, such as Alston, should guard Nash solely and actively all the time when they attack; 2.We must use 2 or more than 2 players to take turns guarding Nash; 3.Everyone tries to make physical contacts with Nash.
Alston cannot guard Nash. He doesn't have the lateral speed needed, and his defense is basically matador in every sense of the word. There's no chance in hell he can stay with Nash's non-stop penetration with that kind of defense. I like jopatmc's analysis. The obvious solution would've been Snyder. It's just interesting why he didn't get that role tonight. How I would play Phoenix is simple. You gotta slow it down and slow it down. You CANNOT run with them, because they'll outrun you 99 times out of 100. You have to pick your spots. If they front Yao, which they've always done, you can either have him go out higher and run backdoors, which Van Gundy traditionally doesn't do. What he can and should have done, is to use quick posts. Have Yao move from strong to weakside and back quickly. Reverse the ball around. Eventually, you WILL find an opportunity to get him the ball in a position for him to do something with it. And on defense, you cannot just pack the paint and rotate out to shooters. Phoenix has too many spot-up shooters for that. What I'd do is to contain Nash and the pick and roll. Everything starts with that. You take away Nash, you put length on Barbosa, body him up a little, Phoenix sputters. And another thing, don't even try leaving the shooters. If they dump it into Amare, what I would do is to fake a double. Have someone half-double him to deny him the ball or to get him to pass it back out. It's kind of a half-zone if you will. But of course, I'm sure the coaching stuff knows all that. It's just one loss, and of all teams, we match up the worst with Phoenix, so we'll see what happens in the last game and the playoffs.
Van Gundy is too smart a coach not to know this stuff. He knows it. That is why I am suggesting Van Gundy doesn't give use all the weapons until the playoffs. I think his theory is you save the best for the playoffs and then you get in and surprise the heck out of teams. i have got that feeling too at times. I just hopes it right. spot on about lucas on nash. yeah the size advantage hurts, but at least lucas can cut him off. i thought that was a nice move and it is very curious why he didnt go to it again
I do not think that Nash is speedy. We should use Kirk to guard Barbosa, and Alston and Head to guard Nash. As a matter of fact, if Rox'd played V-Span, he's quick and strong enough to guard Nash
I just hope you are right about jvg - or I'll have to stop watching the Rox until a new coach is hired. It was beyond frustration last night seeing Amare knocking down jumpers after jumpers while a tired Yao getting blocked again and again.
did we not hold them to 8 points under their scoring average? i don't think our defense was too bad except on barbosa, we didn't let amare go off and nash stayed relatively in control. i think our offense was just horrible, however if our outside shots are not going in, we arent going to score very many points in a game.
absolutly 100% right. JVG is too stubbern. Sometimes I don't know he is smart or not. We as a fan can see some problems but he as a coach. I don't know if something we don't know under the cover. Here is my posts in the game thread. 1. key to win. Hit our 3s. Slow them down, our current D will not work for them. we need D nash hard and from the begaining of they through ball in, not like we do now all 5 come back quickly. try to use vspan(jeff may not do this)'s 5 foul to make nash tired. Tmac has hot hand. go rox. tough game and I say: 112: 108 rox win 2. jvg sucks, he need let a player to d their ball holder. 3. our players just run back when they got reb or through in the ball , that's not work, you can not run faster than ball move, we need D harder on their ball handler From Very Beigaining. that's my post in game thread
