Just as I thought....I was actually hoping he WOULD prove it.....cause I liked it when HP broke down plays and posted the little animated Gifs here. So....HP......what say you now? I knew I did not call BS.... DD
Not sure that is called for, even with a winky guy. When I made the mistake of lumping you in and thinking your were critical of coaches, I was man enough to admit my error. Are you? GO ROCKETS !!! GO JVG !!! Not sure what that proves, it certainly does not prove the main thrust of this thread, being your assertation. You have certainly mellowed as a poster, not near as controversial as you used to be, and that is cool...but holding grudges after someone apologized is a bit much...don't you think? DD
you are not Mango and SJC's. you do not know how to find posts. The post is not about my openning thread. it is in someone else's thread. but,,,it doesn't matter. dd said "fine" whatever. water under the bridge at this point. but we have established that your searching skills are not on par with SJC and Mango....take a seat dude.
Wow - that is so classy HP...I thought you were smitten....thanks for the venom.....and the lack of an apology. Maybe you can actually get around to proving the point of this thread sometime in the future, until then... Good luck, and thanks for the name calling, it is very mature of you. We shall all hold our breath for the great HP to prove his BBall intellect by proving that the league is actually copying a JVG adjustment to how to defend the Spurs. Of course, JVG could be copying another coaches adjustment....NAH...that could NEVER happen....right HP? DD
that's right. this thread is all about you. figures you would take it that way. That's what big posters like you do....you think everything is about you. dude...this is about JVG and you said it it not about JVG. you said this is about batter on ginobody. you are wrong. that is not why we are crushing Popovich...and that is not why SA is on a relative skid. it is JVG. you prove it otherwise... If you want, I can prove it enough to show that battier on ginobody is not the reason.. basically, battier is not on ginobody enough for it to be a reason. not over all 3 games...not over league pass of these other teams doing the same thing. we are now just getting started....maybe you think Sam Fisher argues with you...or maybe you want to bring it....don't say you apologized to me for lying about me bashing coaches...and I'm a dick for whatever...la la la just bring it. just talk basketball. it is now just beginning
I am as annoyed by DD as the next guy, but you need to mellow the f out. You hijacked your own thread to settle a personal grudge. You made this about DD, not him.
did I? oops. i'm so out of practice it is pathetic. but you know what I love Batman Jones...and his "Idiot" thread. It made me laugh. DaDakota and I don't have grudges...relax. DD and I are just fine. I just want him to bring it. maybe this posting thing get too serious sometimes...and I wanted to see how DD would respond..lol but you are right...i hijacked my own thread. I don't think I've ever done that before. but you know what it is now just beginning! we are going to win the title...i'm just trying to get you all stoked. that said. Batman Jones is correct. DD is an idiot. Do you not agree with that? yes or no? don't give me no maybe....
Back on Topic. I dont think we have shown how to beat the Spurs I think we have always matched up well with them. Our styles are very similar with a defense first philosophy and a strong low post threat. I think the Spurs are getting older = slower and the Rox have revamped quite nicely. Now add in we have two Spurs killers in Tmac / Bonzi and we are their worst nightmare. J
i always wondered.... is "maybe maybe no" the same as "maybe maybe yes" you all remeber the whole maybe maybe no thing is we are talking about a Vince Carter trade...right?
For DaDakota's thought that perhaps we're copying someone else: 3 teams have a winning record against the Spurs this year: The Cavs (2-0), The Rockets (2-1), and The Lakers (2-1). The Cavs and Lakers each have wins of 7 and 4 points against the Spurs (The Lakers lost today in OT by 2). The Rockets have wins of 19 and 5 (and a loss of 8). In terms of margins in wins, the Rockets have a huge edge; in terms of net margins, the Rockets are slightly behind the Cavs, but have played 1 more game. Us and the Cavs are the only teams against which the Spurs average fewer than 90 ppg -- and they haven't broken that plateau in any particular game. If you accept that it's a defensive solution stopping the Spurs, it's clear that only 2 teams have had that answer - us and Cleveland. And I have a hard time imagining a team from the East wrote the book on how to stop the Spurs as opposed to the I-10 rivals.
Yes...2 teams with a winning record....but why have the Spurs lost 8 games at home. JVG wrote this book game one. We had that game....but anyhow....the coaches had that game. right? we just let it go. is that JVG's fault. maybe maybe no dude....just don't give tony pecker the lane....shove him of it and just let ginobody pass... popovich will not go to duncan until late. build the lead. popovich is stubborn. duncan can not win the game at the end trying to catch up. pop will give you the lead. he needs to get over that thinking, watch the games.
few things i have seen, we got two of the games live and watched the other tad later, but as we get some sort of south american/asia feed of espn with seem to get loads of spurs games as they have manu and orberto... is the last week of so seen spors v cavs and nugs you have to attack Parker, Rafer even with his poor shooting got into the lane at will in the last match-up...... parker's D is really non existent and him and manu get away with by ball hawking and playing the lanes..... hence Battier gets open as manu is playing for steals..... Defensively JVG is clearly saying let Duncan beat us and not double..... he is also trying to take away early drives from Parker and Manu.... in the last game he was really daring them to shoot from outside... and the spurs didn't want to once they stopped parker transition drive by getting mass numbers back they really backed off and dared him to shoot.... they also defended Manu better than ever before in the last game.... forcing him right on his first dribble but then not allowing him to come back to his left or spilt the gap in the help.... JVG also seems to very content playing a small 2, esp Head and letting the SPurs post him up, esp Manu and Finley, seems like Spurs just should and watched and Head did a great job only allowing a turn around at worst...... the rox seem to like to use Howard at the highpost to stretch the D and also loads of multiple pick n rolls in the same offense, this is clearly trying to pull and stretch Duncan and the other big away from the basket, often the first one did nothing but the second was effective in the same offense or run Tmac curling off screen s on each low block... even as good as bowen is he had no real way to combat TMac's catch and shoot ability and the height differnce the start of the last game saw them just abandon Orberto which was a interesting strategy, i have seen him have a couple of really nice games when some other teams have done this, think the Nugs did and he shot like 9 of 10 or something stupid... so seems a like a risky strategy but worthwhile as it seems to shock duncan...... both the Cavs and Nugs also tried their best to play Duncan straight up without doubling however some of the spurs problems are their own doing, Pop really has a tight leash on Parker and Manu...... they can create their own shots and make things easy for Duncan but Pop has gone all conservative and leaving Duncan to create for everyone including the two guys who can do it themselves..... as good as they have been in the half court, in the past they have been very good at selective breaks and transition and they really seem to be missing this lately..... ps when did idiot become such as derogatory term... yall know idiot is the new genius....even little cuttino says so
Hope? I FEEL it. Other than the Suns and Mavs, I KNOW we can get past anybody in a 7 game series. I HOPE (bordering guarantee) we can take out the above mentioned two in a 7 game series. RR
First time in a long time that Rox has a temporary winning records against Spurs (2-1), and yet JVG lovers already start trash-talking.
Not when you call me an idiot we aren't. I don't appreciate name calling, if you disagree with a point...fine...but don't make it personal.....that is uncalled for..... Back on topic. You said you had proof HP.......about JVG showing the rest of the league how to stop the Spurs. You are the one who has to prove your point.....Show the proof......you know....PROVE IT !! Also, I am still waiting for you to show where I called BS...... DD
How about this.... YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS! You guys give JVG way too much credit. Please, go back in history. Its obvious that JVG did NOT write the book on how to beat the Spurs. It was Riley in 1994 that wrote that book. Riley never liked double teaming gifted big men. When the Knicks played the Rocks in their heyday, Riley put either Ewing one on one on Olajuwon and let him score 40 or put Mason on Olajuwon and let him score 40. Then, Riley instructed his players to lock down the other Rockets on the floor. It almost worked in a 7 game series and the Knicks always played the Rockets tough. Van Gundy as assistant to Riley probably wrote that strategy down on his mangy old black basketball book and let time go by. Now, he goes back, pulls out that strategy and WALLA! He is a ****ing defensive genius who wrote some kind of book on how to defend the Spurs. Peoples idiocity never ceases to amaze me around here.
You stole my thunder.....this is very similar to what I was going to say, and it is all about matchups. We have a big that can play Duncan one on one, and it allows our perimeter players to guard their men and not leave to double Duncan. Ginobli - Battier Parker -Alston Duncan - Deke/Yao Bowen - Tmac Uberto - J-Ho We match up very well with them.......and by putting Tmac on Bowen, Tmac gets to rest on defense ...... DD
