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JVG wants 3 PG's and a 4 who can shoot. here are some options...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by smoothie, Apr 22, 2006.

  1. RocketsMac

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    I thought the dude did pretty well with us.. he wasn't a ball-hog like u are saying... he played well and shot the open J.. didn't take anybody's shot... just took the right shots and hit them on a consistent basis..
     
  2. Outlier

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    Yes he did, and I wish I had the video to prove it. You're overrating him just to go against JVG.
     
  3. RocketsMac

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    I aint going against gundy... I dont have a problem with the dude... I just thought that it wasn't a good move...
     
  4. side45wayz

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    Derek Anderson was a waste of space, if you watched as much basketball as you claim than you must have a low bball iq (I should of probably realized this earlier seeing you want our #1 pick to go to JJ Reddick...wtf)
     
  5. RocketsMac

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    first, welcome to clutchfans.. it's gonna be really fun having u in here considering that your first post was a direct attack on me.. but it's alright, world is full of haters...
    now, a quick advice for u: when u want to bash somebody by bringing in a previous quote, make sure u look at that quote's date..
    example: when I said we want Reddick, we were just out of the playoffs and our rank in the draft was 13 or 14.. so Reddick would've been a great pick for #13....

    now, what did u say ??? Anderson was a waste of space, ok , lets see.. how many games did u watch him play ?? and how many shots did u see him jacking up instead of passing it to Yao.. acutually, How many shots have u seen him take...?? .. I think it's a good idea for u to check the stats first, then attack somebody u dont know in your first damn post .. I could've done that, but i dont have time for low iq idiots like u... bye..
     
  6. Nelly

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    the reason Derek Anderson sucks is b/c he is a bricklayer...the dude could not shoot anymore and could not get by his man
     
  7. Pringles

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    dude... even if our draft pick was 13 or 14 reddick shouldn't be that high. and plus when we were out of playoffs we were like 11 weren't we? let me answer your questions. i watched him play 18 out of 20 games. i didn't nessicalry see him jacking up shots, but i saw him missing open jumpers- too many that i don't remember how much. check the stats? he was a 28% 3 point shooter. thats worse that wesly who had surgery. you don't think that was good move? fitch who was barely making any money and a trade exception thats pretty much around 2-3 mill. we could use that and some other player to get a overpaid player or a good around player. plus thats probaly the best offer we could have gotten anyways...
     
  8. RocketsMac

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    are you serious ?? Reddick, the best scorer in the nation, or maybe the second best, shouldn't be a top 15 or even top 10 players ??? ... that's pretty weired... the dude is a very good player and I think he should be drafted even higher than 13... especially in this relatively poor draft (I dont see anybody shining other than Roy, Gay, MOrrison, and possibly Thomas)..

    now talking about DA, u cant judge his shooting by his percentage because of the very few games he played with us.. dont forget his leg injury.. the dude didn't have a chance to prove himself... all I know is I was amazed with him and Head in the offseason... I remember Derek shooting them threes and hitting all net 3 times in a row.. now I know u can judge him by one game, but the dude could shoot.. stop talking **** about him.. even if he cant do anything, trading him for Fitch was pretty stupid...
     
  9. hooroo

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    da's shooting wasn't that bad. i seem to recall him getting to the basket or just scoring when no one else could.

    we all know how much jvg loves stats maybe they correlated da's time on court and the number of fouls yao picked up? when da played earlier in the season yao's foul count was pretty high.
     
  10. stab

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    Webber is an very good shooting 4. He has burned us on more than one occasion. If JVG is looking for a shooting 4 to consistently hit the open J from the elbow..he would be ideal. Get rid of Deke(he's done), even though he has 1 more year. Put 'Stro as Yao's backup and pick up a shooter in the draft. I still like Redick. Here is a guy that was chased all around the court, doubled and sometimes triple-teamed and still was the 2nd leading scorer in the NCAA's. picking him between 8-10 is not completely out of the question. Stranger things have happened.
     
  11. leebigez

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    Here is my breakdown of the Rox roster:

    Rafer is a solid starter, Sura is injury prone, cant count on him and Head is a career back-up like Bobby Jackson,Derek Fisher which is cool.

    Wesley should be a shooter off the bench at the pg, Bogans is a backup 20mins per game player also.T-Mac is a stud but has no one else over 6'6 to share some of the minutes at 2/3.

    Howard is consistent and undervalued, Swift is athletic low bbiq player who is hot and cold, hayes is udersized hard worker type and Yao is becoming a stud.

    How can the Rox right the ship? Get healthy for one and aquire well rounded players who can do something other than 1 thing.
    Clidress,Woods,Nocioni,Radmonivich,and Deng all fits to me. Each are multitalented and has size at the 2/3 spot. All 4 are good rebounders for their position, pretty atheletic and have decent basketball IQ. None are low percentage shooters/scorers. If I thought i can get Deng or Childress with the draft pick, i would do it. If i thought Nocini or Radmonivich would take the mle, i would do that. I'm not sure but I know if i had Alston,T-Mac,and either of those 4 at the 3, along with Howard and Ming, i would love my chances of competing for the division and even the conference title because now we would match up against any team.
     
  12. NewYorker

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    Surround Yao, T-Mac, and a 4 who can shoot with passers

    With those three, you don't need a SG. I think it's a really smart strategy.
     
  13. RocketsMac

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    smart strategy ??? ... are u serious ??
    how about this, surround Yao, T-Mac, and a monster at the 4 (REBOUND, postups, dunks) with shooters who can hit the dang open 3, and we win a championship..

    if we Surround Yao, T-Mac, and a 4 who can shoot with passers, we will be a great LOTTERY TEAM AGAIN...!!!
     
  14. jopatmc

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    Sounds like the old Hakeem Rockets, doesn't it?
     
  15. RocketsMac

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    and Old Webber is a Juwan Howard... we dont want Webber, the dude is too old and we've already seen what a shooting 4 could do for the rockets ( the great 05-06 season)... so forget shooting for the 4, get us a rebounder.. start Swift IF HE WANTS TO PLAY HARD and Reddick would be perfect for this team if we cant get Gay, Morrison, or Thomas... JJ is my favorite player in college basketball and I really like the way he plays, but I dont know what can he do in the NBA ...
     
  16. RocketsMac

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    yeah man, .. the old Hakeem Rockets won us 2 championships... but it was all Hakeem man.. Dream is the best player in History, check my signature for supporting quotes ..

    now I know Yao aint in Hakeem's level-and nobody will even come close to Hakeem- but with T-mac and a good rebounder and some good shooting role player, this team will be great...we dont want names, just like the old Rockets...all we need is an Otis Thorpe, Mario Elie, Kenny, and the rest of guys..
     
  17. jopatmc

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    No, it wasn't all Hakeem. It was Hakeem and a bunch of guys that could shoot the rock. I don't know how many times we saw the double, throw out to the corner, around the world, back up top for the wide open 3 ball by Kenny Smith or whoever.

    Funny, everyone wanted to get rid of that offense when we got Francis. I kept saying we needed to get a big man and run inside/outside again. Now, 11 year later, it looks like the basic blueprint for another contending team.
     
  18. RocketsMac

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    Rafer might be alright, but not for this team, we need a shooter, not a play-maker.
    Sura will be back next year, stop saying that about the dude.. the man is a warrior and he will be back full speed.
    Head might be a good 2 one day, but not a PG.. he cant play PG.. Jackson and Fisher are 1s and Fisher won the Lakers a championship.

    completely agree.. we need a good 2 (from the draft) and a backup for T-mac who can play 10 good minutes..

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    lets get rid of Howard, work on Swift and start him, Hayes would be a good backup.. Yao is just fine... if Swift wants to work, keep him, start him, and we are fine at the 4,.. if he doesn't, trade his *** and get us an average 4 who can rebound, post up, and play some D....


    I really like the 4 players u mentioned.. but with Howard and Alston in the starting lineup, we wont win even if u get us Michael Jordan... trade the 2 dudes for any one from the list u mentioned, get a good player from the draft, and we are all good...
     
  19. RocketsMac

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    you are absolutely right.. we had a bunch of great guys, but nobody gave them enough credit and they were always underrated... they weren't superstars though, they did great in their role and Hakeem made everybody better...

    and talking about the inside-out game, that's the real winning basketball.. u cant win a championship without an inside-out game.. the only exception would be MJ's Bulls.. but it was MJ, Scottie, Dennis, and Kerr.. they were all good... a lot of people consider the inside-out game boring and old school and everything, but I actually enjoy watching inside-out teams.. especially if u had hakeem inside and the guys outside hit their J's (love it when they Swish that basketball)..
     
  20. jopatmc

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    I watched some of these pretenders over the weekend. I didn't get to see the Miami game yesterday but of all the rest that I did see, I didn't see one single team besides San Antonio with a serious post game. They're all running around setting picks for jumpers and looking to break down the defense for the drive to the basket, all perimeter based. I'm sure Miami was going to Shaq daddy but outside of those 2 teams, there are no other teams in this league that can touch us in half court basketball. Not even Detroit with all it's weapons can compete in halfcourt basketball with us. They've got to get the runouts going and force bad shots to beat us when we are healthy.

    Just imagine what we will be like with another shooter on the floor.
     

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