JVG wants 3 PG's and a 4 who can shoot. here are some options...

Would Dee be an upgrade over JL3?

 

I think Dee's got a good future, we might be able to grab him with our 2nd, but he's small, so I don't think we will

 

Very well-reasoned post. Swift is much more likely to be traded than JHo. JHo would be servicable for offense off the bench.

If Brandon Roy is gone by 8 (probable), we should probably pick a PF with our pick, given that most of the top players in the draft will be PF types.

We really need to pick the best non-center available at 8, irrespective of positional need. The pick will take awhile to develop into a decent starter, anyway. Looking at the mock drafts, odds are the best talent available at that pick will be a PF type.

 

I kinda of have a feeling we are going to take a point guard with the 32nd pick. I couldn't guess who right now, but it's a cheap and effective way to get JVG's 3rd point guard.

 

No mistake on Fartson's name. Rodman is a nutcase. Vernon Maxwell is a nutcase. Rasheed Wallace is a nutcase. Artest........

It is not likely that Miles will be ever anything but a nutcase. But there are plenty of examples of nutcases in this league winning and winning a whole lot because the right coach and the right combination of players surrounding them was able to pull their professionalism up to an acceptable level and pull their production off the charts. Rodman was a raving lunatic all the while he was in Chicago. The reason it worked is he wasn't running the place, MJ and Scottie were. Vernon, we know that story. Rasheed, same thing.

These types of players never work when they are in a situation where they are the go to men, situations where teams are trying to build the franchise around them. But then they go to other teams where they are one of the guys and given a specific job to do on court without any responsibility for leadership and they are highly productive contributors to championship teams.

Juwan Howard will never be a nutcase. He will always be an extremely professional baller with great work ethic. But his results on this team or any team will be poor, mediocre at the very best. He is a net negative on the floor because he is too slow and too flat footed to make a difference. He has no quickness and he has no OUTSTANDING skill to offset all of his negatives on the floor. His jump shot is mediocre and his range is limited to 17 feet. If he has to back up one step further, the jumper becomes a negative too and then there are zero positive to point to about his game.

Are we going to win championships or be the pin up poster for the Cub Scouts?

 

As long as Steve Novak and Kevin Pittsnogle are not on the board at #32. We really need a Matt Bullard type of bench player, more then a 3rd PG. Perhaps that is what JVG meant by a PF with range. To draw the defenders out of the paint.

Dee Brown should be there at #32, if we do go with a PG

 

I just really hope Novak is available at 32. I would be disappointed if he goes late first. Tracy has a very good history with players like him (Garrity in Orlando and Padgett last year) because he's so good at running the pick and roll.

 

i haven't read thru the whole thread, so hopefully i'm not repeating anyone else's sentiments:

1) Jumaine Jones sucks.
& 2) JuHo for Joe Smith is also an outside possibility.

1) Everyone on the bbs keeps throwing around his name like he's some undiscovered diamond. this guy sucks, man. i watched every one of his games in the playoffs the year that Philly got to the Finals, and lemme tell you, this guy is the model player for inconsistency. if you read everything you believe about him, and all the stuff that everyone is saying about him, you'd think that he was like the next stackhouse or something. there's a reason he keeps bouncing around from team to team. he has great athletic ability - i'll give him that. but he plays YMCA defense [all show but no substance], and he's thoroughly inconsistent in his entire offensive game. please let the jumaines jones suggestions end.

2) next year is the last contract year for joe smith and jamaal magloire. i think kukoc is a FA starting this summer. so milwaukee will potentially be missing a big part of their frontcourt [except for gadzuric and bogut] in the very near future. joe smith is injury-prone and somewhat inconsistent - much like JuHow - but he's also a little more capable, and a lot younger. he can hit the midrange shot fairly well, and his salary next year is like ~$6.8 mill, comparable to JuHo's ~$6.39 mill or whatever it is. if the bucks got juwan, he'd be a dependable option for at least a couple more years, at around the same price as smith.
it's not an open-and-shut case, but i'm just saying... you can add joe smith to the list of trade possibilities.

AND TAKE JUMAINE JONES OFF our FA possibilities...

 

what about James Jones?

 

He wants veteran stooges at the 1 or 2 who can do what he says without question: meaning he'll ditch talent and look for old creaky players who are at the end of their career. In the offseason, he'll disappoint us so bad with his and CD's moves that any draft pick we make will look optimistic....

This guy's a failure at motivating or teaching...

 

I would love to trade for Brian Cook. A very good shooting power forward. But I don't think we've ever traded with the Lakers, CDawson must have a grudge with the Lakers GM. I would try to sign James Jones if I could.

 

Donyell Marshall could hav been best suited for this descrption...the Rox are looking for a Horry type of playah

 

Bobby Brown would be the perfect 3rd point guard in the 2nd Round...just have to hope he falls a bit.

 

no drug addicts please

 

a 4 that can shoot? Makes me think Jho><... Why is Howard flamed so much anyway? I mean, he may be bad, but he's not THAT bad... I doubt V-Span coming though... He's got a bright in Euroleague, why risk it all up for hell knows might be a cold bench in the NBA? Money's not really the problem. I'd like to see Chuck and Bogans staying, not to mention Luther... Stro, sadly, seems to be going. Jho's staying however, IMO.

Anyone know what's up with Sura recently?

 

Alright, here's my master plan. We need to try and move Juwan for an outside shooting 4 or a 2. I say we go after Raef. Then we draft Redick. Hopefully we will trade down to take him. I think he will be a good fit. We bring in Spanoulis with 2 mill of the MLE leaving ~3.5 mill to bring in Rasual Butler or a similar player. I also think that we need a three point shooting point. I like Fisher but his contract is insane. V-Span may be able to fill the need, but that is a lot to ask. Ideally we could move Rafer or Stro for someone like that.

So here we go:

Fisher / Spanoulis / Dee Brown? (2nd rounder)
Redick / Butler / Head
T-Mac / Butler
Raef / Stro / Vet min. Big Man (Maybe Baxter or Cliff)
Yao / Deke

I.R. - Bowen and pals

We're in cap hell with Fish and Raef's contracts but this is the time to make a run for a championship. We could really spread the floor with Redick, Fisher, and Raef out there. Spanoulis, Head and Butler could also spread the floor with their shooting with the second unit.

 

that sounds like that would be a fun team to watch. but im thinking that would be a fairly weak defensive team. but still sounds fun though.

 

rockets need a starter at sg. signing a proven/vet sg and stockpiling talent (draft) at pf is the safer route. if the rockets drafted a sg to fill in the starting sg role and he isn't good enough then they're forced to trade stro/jho. depth in the frontcourt takes a hit (the ol' robbing peter to pay paul).

in drafting a forward and signing a vet sg at least if the rookie pf is a bust then rocks won't be forced into a trade situation. it would be the least disruptive route if taken.