1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

JVG vs. Jackson on Rockets, Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jeff Who, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. theimpossibles1

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2007
    Messages:
    4,265
    Likes Received:
    5,103
    I hate Mark Jackson, and the CBS announcer (no idea who he is) that always says "THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT" every time something good happens as if he caused it. Just had to say that.
     
  2. plutoblue11

    plutoblue11 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    10,528
    Likes Received:
    1,011
    In alot of other sitautions, that won't be the case, especially if Landry or Scola are the floor. I don't think Bynum can guard those guys away from the basket, while they are very good shooters away from the basket.
     
  3. SuperMarioBro

    SuperMarioBro Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2006
    Messages:
    3,846
    Likes Received:
    1,528
    Just about every single player-analyst is absolutely terrible.

    Jackson, Barkley, Payton (ha), Miller. The only decent one I can think of right now is Kenny Smith... but even he says some stupid s***.
     
  4. luisantonio1014

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2007
    Messages:
    705
    Likes Received:
    11
    but when healthy, T-Mac is a top 3 SG.

    I also heard JVG say that the media shouldn't vote on who gets MVP because they don't have the basketball knowledge that coaches and players have, and they should actually vote for MVP. I somewhat agree with that, but then you would have whole teams vote for their player.

    I pick Dwyane Wade for MVP because of his defensive stats as well as offensive stats. I know everyone says it's Lebron, but C'mon!
     
  5. plutoblue11

    plutoblue11 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    10,528
    Likes Received:
    1,011

    Dan Majerle...Jon Barry...Hubie Brown...Isiah Thomas (as analyst) and on certain days Doug Collins is pretty alright.
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    JVG would love Ron Artests defense but his undisciplined offensive play would drive him crazy. It would be similar to the problems JVG had with Francis.
     
  7. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    lebron has been the most dominant player this year. he leads the best defensive team, owns the best record in the L, has the best all-around stats out of any player...

    it's not like wade blows him out of the water for him to deserve MVP.
     
  8. Blue Brick

    Blue Brick Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2007
    Messages:
    758
    Likes Received:
    0
    JVG always finds a way to mention the Rockets In his telecast...
     
  9. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59
    jackson didn't know what he was talking about. he hasn't coached any team. until he coaches a team and prepares a game vs rox, he will know what jvg was talking.

    jvg was absolutely right. one-on-one, no one can STOP yao. it is so simple. ron and shane can take turn to force kobe to work extra hard to get his pts. it's the reason rox is only team that can cause trouble against lakers.
     
  10. StaticC4

    StaticC4 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2008
    Messages:
    1,129
    Likes Received:
    8
    JVG would LOVE to have basically everybody we have right now I'm pretty sure any coach would compared to having Ryan Bowen as your off the bench spark :D *Ques the Ryan Bowen picture with the caption*
     
  11. PointForward

    PointForward Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,519
    Likes Received:
    174
    if you made the effort to pay attention to JVG's reasoning behind this interesting choice, then you might have prevented your current state of being a follower of what ESPN's "experts" tell you, just like Mark Jackson..

    truth is, when healthy and willing to play, Tmac is THE most complete shooting guard/small forward in the league.. neither LeBron, Wade, nor Kobe even come close to Mac's court vision and passing ability, and Tmac's shooting (again, when healthy/willing) is on par with those three, if not better.
     
  12. ParaSolid

    ParaSolid Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    4,616
    Likes Received:
    1,753
    I wish Tom Thibodeau (sp?) was still here. Our defense would have been that much better.
     
  13. ParaSolid

    ParaSolid Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    4,616
    Likes Received:
    1,753
    Which T-Mac are we talking about? The last time he was "healthy and willing" was 4 years ago.
     
  14. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,079
    Likes Received:
    32,778
    I notice you did not POINT OUT ONE SINGLE DEFENSIVE CATEGORY
    ALL of them are better. . . not by a little. . but BY FAR than T-Mac
    Their Defense so much better than his. . that it offsets his offensive ability

    My point is. . .when you say MOST COMPLETE
    why does that never include DEFENSE

    Rocket River
     
  15. Shaud

    Shaud Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2008
    Messages:
    18,350
    Likes Received:
    451
    The question was "Who is the Top 3 SG right now?" So all the other b/s you just mentioned was irrelevant to the discussion.

    Considering we got swept by the Lakers this regular season I fell to see why everyone has a problem with Mark Jackson's opinion.
     
  16. RV6

    RV6 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109
    y'all forget that it's one thing for Yao to be unstoppable in the post with the ball in single coverage, but its another thing for Yao to actually GET the ball in the post with single coverage. Tht's the realy key. JVG is right, pau and bynum cant really guard yao, i wouldnt say he's unstoppable, but Yao can get his 20 and 10 on them at least. The problem is getting yao the ball safely without pau poking it away and hoping the lakers dont double, because that too causes problems, like JVG said.
     
  17. Artesticles

    Artesticles Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,371
    Likes Received:
    13
    Well bad playoff matchups tend to result in not doing much in the playoffs. I mean, which one is it? Was it JVG and McGrady's fault we didn't advance or was it Utah being a bad matchup? It goes back and forth on here.
     
  18. kikimama

    kikimama Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    2,048
    Likes Received:
    15
    I really hate these T-Mac haters. They are the same bandwagon type fans that are super annoying... They cheer and praise when things are going good but when we lose they pout and shout like someone stole their lunch money. Same thing applies to T-Mac. The man is injured. I don't know why people put that against him. It's not like he didn't step up his game during the playoffs. It's a team game yet everyone pins it on him. Again, I hate these T-Mac haters. He's on the Rockets, you should support him no matter what.
     
  19. natrix964909

    natrix964909 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2008
    Messages:
    256
    Likes Received:
    0
    Morey's only mistake so far was pushing JVG out the door.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,694
    Likes Received:
    38,949
    No way...that was a great move.

    DD
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now