JVG thinks the Heat will be the greatest team EVER

I've only read the first page of this thread and you are already off the deep end. I'm forced to conclude the Heat will have an incredible season. More than any poster on the forum, you allow your emotions to totally intercept and negate logical thinking. These guys are nothing like the Kobe/Shaq/Payton/Malone, Hakeem/Barkley/Drexler and Hakeem/Pippen/Barkley combinations.

In the other post, you are completely half-cocked equating Bosh to McGrady. They are nothing like each other, on or off the court. Just a silly thing to say. Where did you pull that from? I'm gonna make a wild guess the tape of Bosh and Wade together is the basis of 99% of your opinion of Bosh. If so, that is pretty dumb.

The main chemistry hurdle the Heat will have is with LeBron and Wade. They are the only two "alpha males" on the team. If they get along and set the tone in the locker-room and on the court, the other players will follow. I doubt very much it will be a problem, especially their first season together when they have everything to prove. After a couple of years, we'll see.

The hatred for the Heat here is so strong it's hard to discuss them sensibly for a lot of people. For now, this has pushed the Heat up to being my 2nd favorite team (granted, by a long distance) in the East behind the Bulls. My contrarian side rising up.

 

every post of yours has to include the refs. then stop watching the NBA if you think it's rigged by the refs.

 

You obviously missed the story about the evil narcissist Lebron throwing kids out of a gym so that he could practice! Karma will clearly derail his entire career for that.

 

I don't think "slobbing" is a word as "slob" is not a verb. Maybe you mean slobbering?

Regardless, it's not going to be any worse than watching a typical Lakers game, IMO.

 

Except Shaq who was in their prime who was 26 .. Malone .. Payton or Barkley ..
One thing that people ignore is injuries .. Something we know about very well unfortunetly
There like a chain of Domina if one falls they all well

 

How is that different than any other team? Can Boston afford to lose Rondo to a long-term injury with their depth? Can the Lakers lose Kobe and sustain it with their depth? Can we lose Yao? I would argue that they could deal with a loss of one of their key players better than other teams due to how good the other two would still be. So even if they lose one of the big three its not like it is over for them.

Full strength they look like

Haslem
Bosh
Lebron
Miller
Wade

Take away Bosh and it is-

Ilgauskas
Haslem
Lebron
Miller
Wade

Take away Lebron and it is-

Haslem
Bosh
Miller
Wade
Chalmers

And so on... plus they have a bunch of rookies (Butler, Pittman, Varnado) to eat some minutes. We couldn't even make the playoffs without Yao. The Heat could make the playoffs without Wade. BUT WE HAS SO MUCH DEPTHS!? Look, they still have to play the games, but what problems do you see them having. Their season is a "failure" if they don't make it to the ECF at least. Their problems are Wade and Lebron canceling out each others MVP votes. Their problems are not having enough balls because they have three guys that can average of 25 a night. Their problems are having to let go of their ticketing staff because they are completely sold out. If we make it past the 2nd round, we would have the most successful Rockets team in over a decade. I guess I wouldn't mind having their problems.

 

You are right, no team has ever put together 3 guys who are top players in the league during their prime. And I agree that they have a chance to become the BEST team ever.

But you can not over look the ego factor. The way I see it is that players who are past their prime and know that they have no chance of winning it all by themselves as the alpha dog, eg, boston, they are more willing to take the back seat. For these three, i think deep down they still want to be the top dog of their team. There is definitely a chance that they would still have problems on the court.

again, they are potentially the best team in the league IMO.

But that is what we said able the cavs last year too, then when they lost, everyone said the team was not good enough out side of lebron. I am not hating, but I really want them to loose this year just to see what excuses the media is going to come up with cause lebron and wade are just too good and loosing games is never their fault.

 

Except all your tandems are players at the end of their rope. Didn't Malone retire the season ended? Weren't Pippen, Barkley and Drexler pretty much washed up when they teamed up? IIRC Pippen went back to the bulls, became a role player and ended up retiring after that as well.

What most people don't realize is that the Miami trifecta have one thing on their side: Father Time. Even if they don't win a title this year, they have like a half decade more basketball to go before Wade becames old man Jenkins, and a decade more before LBJ and Bosh decline.

 

There will be no ego problems between Lebron, Wade and James. LMAO, you guys act like three stars haven't played on a single court before. Remember Team USA? That had an entire roster of stars. What about all star games? Same thing. Celtics big 4, anyone?

Fact is, ego problems only happen when immature guys are involved. Kobe and Shaq had it primarily because Kobe didn't want "the man" being a lazy bum who just lounged around on company time. Shaq had ego problems wherever he went simply because he can't stand other people being in the spotlight. LBJ and Wade are close friends, I'm sure they'll find a way to co-exist. Don't Durant and Westbrook co-exist on the floor as well?

 

For a defense-first coach like van Gundy to call a team "indefensible" is...disturbing.

 

LOL, I'm getting there too. I'm amazed how many people here are actually rooting for the Lakers over the Heat.

 

By this post here, you basically admitted that you have no clue how these players play. These guys sacrificed their "legacies" to be with each other. You really think sharing a ball is going to hurt them? They've taken paycuts, media hits, players throwing **** at them, etc. And you really think a ball is in their way?

You can criticize all of these guys for being prima donna's, diva's, etc., but you cannot dare criticize them for being "selfish".

Only chemistry problem is adjustment timing. They'll need time to get use to each other, but if you think they'll start calling shots and demanding iso's, you're not really watching the same player we've seen for the past 7, 8 years.

As for whose taking the last shot? Game by game basis.

 

This.

It's just like if Garnett & Allen had paired up with Pierce in '03 or '04 rather than '08. In '08 they were still regarded as highly as in '03/'04, but their lifespan was significantly less.

 

JVG is right IMO. not only do they have the big 3, they have been successful at putting good to decent players around them. good shooters and players to protect the rim/

 

You either have an impressive ability to block out bad memories, or a very bad sense of Rockets history.

 

I agree, the Heat will make it work. All three players are unselfish. I'm sure they thought about this prior to teaming up.

 

Bosh will take a reduced role. Less points. Etc. etc. Wade and LeBron will be the two superstars on the team.

They all played on Team USA together. They have the chemistry. All they need to do is make sure the bench doesn't screw it up for them and you've got a 70+ win team.

 

If we had a Battier in his prime coupled with Ariza now. We would have been the only team in the league able to stop the Heat... to an extent.

 

their is no way to compare this team to any other team in history. this is unheard of. for a reigning 2 back to back mvp to switch teams and go to arguably the team that has the 3rd best player in the league, and on top of that have a 5 time nba all star, most coveted big man of the offseason join the team as well. on top of that all 3 guys are in their prime. possibly have not even peaked yet.

anyone claiming they know chemistry will be an issue is foolish and just a hater. anyone claiming this team will not be a forced to reckon with and top 2 record in the league is just foolish and a hater. the heat filled out their roster quite nicely. they have 3 point shooters in house, miller, and jones. big bodies in pittman, anthony, and big z.

chemistry was a real problem when the celtics big 3 formed, huh? 3 guy on the back end of their career...shmmmm, i atleast thought most rockets fans had common sense, so much for that...

 

Yeah, they look scary. But lets not crown them yet, "That's why they play the game".

Lots of things can happen between then and now. Injuries etc.

One thing is for certain, this might be one of the most watched and interesting seasons in NBA history. I believe NBA ratings peaked during the Jordan years and fell off because of the lockout and his retirement. This years NBA teams will probably bring the league a lot closer to it's former prominence.