JVG thinks the Heat will be the greatest team EVER

JVG is one of the few 'talking heads' opinion I respect and I tend to believe him here.. I originally thought this team would suck and not be able to fill out the rest of the roster but with scrubs but wow they have done an incredible job signing very high level role players.. I love the Eddie House signing, Udonis is their Chuck Hayes, and Mike Miller is tough as nails with great shooting.. this team could become quite scary

 

do you think the celtic and laker dynasties of the eighties were bad for the NBA

 

Jeff must have been high. No way Miami breaks those records. Karma can be a b****.

 

It's not that there is a dynasty in the making; it's the way it was formed by collusion.

 

Without this player collusion, we would be stuck with yet another Lakers dynasty, this one brought about by a crappy franchise dumping their best player for peanuts.

 

He outplayed Malone in some of the games and got outplayed by him in others. Barkely as a defensive liability should not have been that important though, because the Rockets were starting Hakeem Olajuwon, just put him on Malone and Barkley on Ostertag. Anyway, the series was close and came down to Malone bear hugging Clyde when they weren't switching on the PnR. What bring Charles in did manage to accomplish was beating the Sonics.

 

This post makes LOGIC cry

 

They have tomany 'i need the ball' players to be a cohesive unit. I think they'll be good, but not as good as on paper. On the court is a different story. They have ego's to go with 'give me the ball' to share the ball. I dont expect to see much ball movement in their offense.

 

Actually I miswrote that. I meant more than 63. I expect them to average about 60-63 combined.

His assists will drop. I agree assists can be misleading. A player's ability to pass isn't determined by sheer number of assists, but he's going to have a lot fewer playmaking opportunities.

Verse summed it up pretty well in his post.

 

Thank you, sir.

 

A nice post, verse. My problem with Miami, putting aside the bizarro way the "Big Three" came together, is that so many seem to be handing them the title before the games are played, saying they will break the consecutive winning streak, and that they will break the wins in a season record. Perhaps they will, but you play the games. It is a long season. Personally, I think both records stand and that Miami will have a better shot at them the following year, as some others have predicted. Still, while Miami has to be a prohibitive favorite coming out of the East, there is no assurance that they can beat the team that wins the Western Conference, or even that they will win the East.

You play 82 games and the playoffs. No team is handed anything, unless the refs do it.

 

I love how players talking to each other (which the league has officially said they have no issue with) and deciding where to play as free agents has somehow morphed into collusion simply because people don't like the decisions that were made.

 

I turn your attention to players such as tracy mcgrady who has in fact had 25/7/7 seasons, or 28/7/6, 32/7/7 a season before.

I do believe if certain star players in the league wanted a stat line like that they can get it. It's not too far of a stretch to see melo get 25/7/7, or maybe Durant, we've seen Rondo get friggin 30/18/15 so c'mon.

Basketball is what these guys do for their living, I believe there are some guys in the league that can put up lebron like numbers if they were in the same situation as he was in cleveland. Is it too hard to believe that T-mac couldn't have even gotten 20/10/10 had his supporting cast like...you know scored off some of his beauty passes?

 

rational post.

but i counter with what we saw in the world championships. obviously, the competition won't be as easy, but you got a hint when james, wade, and bosh had to sacrifice and play within the team game.


** you also have to understand lebron will play the most minutes out of the big 3.***

james still had the all-around stats that no other perimeter player on that team did. in 25 mins, he put up 16, 5, 4.

wade focused more on scoring and put up 16, 4, 2 in 19 minutes of play.

i'm sure you'll see the same trends

you also have to take into account the efficiency of his passes turning into assists. playing with wade, bosh, miller -> easier assists. so although bron's usage will decrease, it doesn't mean his stats will suffer much in terms of assists.

also, i disagree on bosh not seeking contact. he started out the year last year leading the league in ft attempts for a month and ended the season with 8.5. that's great for a big man not named howard. he seeks contact, and lots of it. i think you'll see him running a lot of pick and roll with wade and james.

i stand by my predictions. lebron will average near a triple double at least. the dude is motivated, never gets tired or injured... he will be depended upon the most on the heat. he'll still play 38+ minutes.

 

Ok I'll use your logic. Extrapolating LeBron's Olympic stats (15.5PPG, 5.3 Reb, 3.8 APG) from 24.75 to 36 minutes (his minutes will come down a little) gets you the following line:

22.5 PPG 7.7 RPG 5.5 APG

That is almost exactly the line I predicted for him, is it not?

That's in limited minutes so he could expend more energy while out there and against inferior competition.

Regardless, notice how the assist numbers are way down? Wonder why

 

that wasn't my logic. i'm just saying even playing with other superstars, lebron still has the all-around stats.

the heat don't have 10-11 all-stars on their team. i assume you know paul, deron, kobe... all handled the ball too on that team.

the primary ballhandlers on this team will be james and wade.

 

also on the cavs, mo will averaged 5.3 assists per game playing 34 minutes per game while lebron averaged 8.6. just FYI.

 

More ball handlers, fewer assists.

I wouldn't use the olympic numbers to prove my point. Comparing an 82 game season where they have to play 36-40 a night against qualtiy NBA players to the Olympics is a crap-shoot at best.

But my point still stands. More ball handlers-->fewer assists

You can believe he'll be close to a triple-double if you want, but you'll see how playing with Bosh and Wade is going to take teh ball out of his hands a lot and drop his numbers accordingly.

 

It seems to me that just as many people are coming up with ridiculous reasons for why they will fail before they've even played a game. Or analyzing every player's legacy before they've even played a game.

 

Melo and Durant don't have half the passing skills Lebron has. Lebrons main skill is his passing ability and his court vision. Melo and Durant could never play PG while Lebron does, and could easily lead the league in assists.
I can see your a Tmac fanboy so I will not comment on your crazy comments about him.