JVG - Stay or GO? New poll after emotions are quieted

I thought Rudy.T didnt get along with Les the last year, and he and his crew was pretty much swept out of the door except Yao. I dont see him coming back as long as Les is the owner.

 

-8.4 net points per 100 possessions which is bad, but not as bad as V-SPAN's -10.4 and not as shockingly bad as Novac's -17.8.

 

again...adjust with who!?!! you have to play with the cards you are dealt.

its a simple concept...sooner or later it should sink in

 

None of that had anything to do with the fact that we were throwing some the show stopping combination of Ryan Bowan and Clarence Weatherspoon at PF, if we ever needed Juwan it was in that series, lets not even start talking about those horrible calls by the refs.

 

again, counter with who? names on that team. lets get into details.

guess what, the rockets dont have horry or TT on the bench.

 

Failed to counter with who? Ryan Bowen WAS our counter... since Clarence Weatherspoon was our starter down the stretch.

You trust Jon Barry's defense? I don't. You already knew we had David Wesley out there trying to guard Stackhouse. I guess Padgett should have been guarding Josh Howard. Seriously... tell us what YOU would have done, rather than the tired "well, those were the players he chose, so its still his fault."

You think the answer to everything is to simply go a completely different direction than what you're already doing. You're the epitome of "grass is always greener"... but sometimes, when that grass is nothing but manure painted green, its hopeless.

 

well said.

after the loss its always easy to say "he should have done this"...yet that proves absolutely nothing

 

yeah...and those guys played. so whats are you talking about then?

 

James played... a ton. He's the sole reason why we ended up coming back and blowing them out in game 6.

Barry played... a ton. Hit some huge 3's in games 1 and 2. Unfortunately, he had no prayer of sticking with Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Jerry Stackhouse, or even Marquis Daniels.

That team had a serious personnel issue... it just spoke volumes to how well T-mac was playing that series. That's the best performance by any Rocket in a playoff series since Hakeem's domination of D-Rob in 95.

 

I'm posting this hear rather than starting another thread.

Everyone talks about how great JVG teams are on D but is that really the case?

Looking over this past series the Jazz the Jazz average was over 90 points a game and in only two games did they score less than that including one where the Rox offense could only muster 67. So a big part of the failure of this series appears to not just be an absence of offense but also the inability to shut down the Jazz when needed.

Just skimming over this past season record it looks like that teams were routinely getting over 90 and not rarely over a 100 against the Rox. Also the Rox defense appears to have been tougher earlier in the season but by the end of the season other teams seem to have figured out how to score on us.

To be fair the Rox did win a few shoot outs in April.

So as the saying goes defense wins championships and JVG is considered one of the best defensive coaches but looking at the Rox record it looks like the D was doing enough.

 

so you complain that he should have countered with MJ. MJ did, in fact play a good amount, but now you say he didnt play enough. when does it end?

any other adjustments in that series, or was that the only one?

 

Was offense really the problem in EITHER of the big losses (games 3 and 4)? If we get somebody who can stick a hand in Jason Terry's face, we win at least one of those, and close them out in 6.

There are times where a change would have helped, and there are times where you're just not good enough. I agree... this current team needs a change. Yao can't carry a team on his own, T-mac can't carry a team on his own, and both of them together still have serious weaknesses. Not all of those were all that visible in 05, or even halfway through this year... if they were, they would/should have been addressed before LAST season.

But, that 05 team was simply not as good as simply "lacking adjustments" to win that series. If anything, the adjustments we made to Dallas to start the series is what got us the 2-0 lead. They counter, which was exploit the Jason Terry pick and roll caused problems with our personnell of Yao and whichever guard getting picked. We tried Yao on Josh Howard... that didn't work. We tried Bowen on everybody... that didn't work.

You say adjustments are never made, and its simply not true. We suffer from adjustments that often DO NOT WORK. In 05, it was a personnel issue. Right now, it still may be a personel issue, but I'm more concerned since I now question exactly how far our franchise center (who's getting slower and weaker) and our franchise wingman (who's got a bad back, and is aging 10 years every off-season) can actually take us... regardless of who is the coach.

 

rockets have been a top defensive team in the nba for several years now. Of course there will be games scoring in the 90s, its the nba. but when a guy consistantly has a team in the top 5 in points allowed and fg% (with not necessarily great defensive players) then its hard to argue with those results

 

I can say without any hesitation that this was a much better defensive/rebounding team with Mutombo over Yao. Unfortunately, Mutombo can't score and play big minutes..

 

thats a good post...if you made more adjustments

 

Avery didn't go small by choice. It was only after what's his name (overpaid white guy with the long socks, seriously i don't remember) got injured.