JVG - Stay or GO? New poll after emotions are quieted

aint that the truth

 

I definately think the rockets new to go into a new direction and I lost faith in T-mac.

I use to be comfortable with T-mac jacking up three, because he was dynamic enough to make them when it mattered and I just don't feel that way anymore.

I hope he proves me wrong but as of right now, Jeff's not my biggest concern.

 

JVG needs to open his heart and say how worried he is about himself...

he is a depressed man who runs from his responsibilities, he needs to take everything in his hands and resign, because he could not bring us over to the 2nd round....

be a man Jeff, do it as soon as possible, you would do many people a favor

please do not forget to take your fans with you, without you the rockets will be a championship contender

 

lay off the booze. you still have yet to give a legit reason to him being gone...besided not playing the scrubs at the end of the bench

i know what you mean and i agree. he is a great talent and phenomenal player but maybe he just doesnt have that elusive "it" that the greats have. this series changed a lot of what i use to think, namely that tmac and yao are enough....well they are not. they need a good amount of help

 

I think I mentioned that about 2343 times....

And I said before, JVG is not a bad coach, he does some things very well, but the things that he doesn't do are simply a show stopper,

he had 4 years do something with this team and its time to move on...

 

Well we still haven't gotten out of the first round in three years, that a good enough reason?

And if your gonna use the "its on the players" logic, then why would we even need a coach?

He's there for somthing, and obviously its not developing players so why did we hire JVG?

The answer: to bring us playoff success.

 

well thats a vague reason.

right. so lets evaluate how he's done this team wrong in 4 years.

1) got to plays with a team rudy couldnt.
2) improved team and contested a strong mavs team
3) injury season...void.
4) top 5 or 6 record in the league (with injuries) and played a very good team to game 7.

yeah...thats not a good trend.

 

Its not just this series, but I had this feeling for two years.

I guess its his back issues, who knows.

 

true. i think that has to be a big part of it.

 

I think this poll is too black and white. I like what JVG has done with this team; he's made it competitive again and he's brought them into the playoffs 3 out of the 4 times he's been here...a nice accomplishment in itself considering the injuries and the high turnover in personnel during his tenure. That said this team has had chances to take it to the next level and they've squandered them. I love the defense and the intensity they brought during the regular season. But where was that during the playoffs? And his shortcomings...lack of creativity on offense, failure to develop a deep bench and the young guys might have cost this team during the first round. I think the team could use a breath of fresh air from a coaching standpoint, but only if there is a solid option available out there and someone that will have the respect of the players. I wouldn't be averse to keep JVG on one more year though to see if he can do it...but he needs to relax a little on these young guys in the technical miscues they may make..put them on the floor and start developing them.

 

Well I'm not so sure if I want Van Gundy stay or go. He is a great coach but i hate his "only defense"
I say it again: You cannot kill ofensive capability which Tracy and Yao have.

 

you will post this next year too, I bet on it...if you get an excuse you will just add it to the list....

Rudy IMHO was a horrible coach, I can't speak of him during the championship years, but I remember him between 97-98 and the day he got replaced...

JVG will always remain the same, same structure, same way of thinking, stubborness, loyal, defensive minded with no space for changes...the biggest problem with him is that he has so many people around him asking for changes, but he keeps ignoring it and puts himself on a special level....

he ruins himself and thats totally fine with me....

 

give them talent or give them and early playoff round exit.

yao and tmac cannot get it done alone. especially when battier or rafer is your 3rd best offensive weapon

 

Funny thing is we didn't even make it to the play offs for 4 straight years prior to Jeff and lost in the first round the 2 years prior to that... Six straight years of losing and some of you want that coach back.

Let's not act like JVG took over Shaq and Kobe in their prime like Phil Jackson did. This was a 4 year lottery team and Yao is the only player from those "rebuilding years" still on the team. The fact is that our roster isn't that good. Regardless of who the coach is, we aren't competing for titles without some roster upgrades or Yao turning into the 2nd coming of Olajuwon.

 

best summation of the day...week, month...maybe year.

 

Clutchfans ideal coaching staff:

Rudy T as head Coach
Mario Elie, Matt Bullard & Pete Chilcutt as Assistant Coaches,
Hakeem Olajuwon as Yao Ming's personal tutor and mentor
Jeff & Stan Van Gundy as Halftime Entertainment (aka Whipping Boys)

Ideal Roster includes:
Sam Cassell & Steve Francis as two-headed, hobbling, past their prime Point Guards,
Cuttino Mobley as backup SG


no seriously, this is logical, right?

 

Before the series ended and right after, I wanted to keep him. I love continuity from a coaching perspective. I think a lot of them get the blame and axe more often then they should.


BUT

JVG can't coach offense. Love the d, hate the O. We need someone competent in both. I don't think we can get the players we need to make his offense work.

 

i don't think there's a better defensive-minded coach out there than JVG, and frankly i wouldn't mind having him for another year. he was Van Grumpy in his early Rocket years, but lightened up after the criticism he faced - so it's possible he could adapt a little in terms of the rotation.

i don't think that JVG should be responsible for Mac's stubborn line-drive heat-checks, Yao missing point-blank shots during the entire series that he normally sinks, and Luther & Juwan (especially Luther) missing open shots that they normally hit. Battier redeemed himself later, and i think we all knew what we were getting with Rafer.

HOWEVER, JVG IS responsible for who gets minutes and who doesn't. i still think that V-Span is our best defensive-minded PG, and i think he shoulda gotten some minutes once we all realized Rafer wasn't gonna hit for ****.

Snyder - who i felt woulda been the missing piece in terms of athleticism. the common knock on kirk was his IQ/decision-making, but it seemed like anytime he was in the game he made a difference. (maybe durvasa or someone else can find Snyder's +/- numbers.)

Novak - defense was the obvious knock - but when you can hit shots like that, i think at some point the coach has to let you in and try to depend on the team/help defense to help out the weak links. JVG never tried zone, and i'm sure that woulda helped Novak get some minutes.

Bonzi - coulda been the x-factor, but who really knows what happened. i don't feel comfortable commenting on it, b/c i'd be basing it on hearsay and not some cold, hard facts, but i do know that other coaches would at least let an overweight player play himself into shape, which JVG didn't do.

all that being said, i still think JVG is an educated, learned man, and he's probably better in fundamentals than anyone else out there. i'm just scared that maybe he can't motivate this team anymore.

 

That's nothing. Ask him about Vince Young.

 

Clutch mentioned this somewhere, no sure where but a lot of you are forgetting what JVG's team looked like on offense the 2nd half of the 04-05 season.

That was a very explosive offense and I think we can see something similar again.

There are pieces missing right now but we have to see exactly what the off season brings in terms of additions and subtractions.