1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

JVG: Rafer's our point guard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ccjj, Jan 8, 2007.

  1. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    16,228
    Likes Received:
    1,993
    Rafer has the physical talent and ability to be a legit 13-14 point scorer without relying on the 3's. Besides his many 3 point attempts he gets as quality a shot as anyone else does, just simply frustratingly doesnt make em. Its like the basket is moving around like pop-a-shot when he's shooting but stationary for everyone else.
     
  2. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    390
    Jeff made those comments for one very simple reason. He is trying to take all the pressure off Rafer by assuring him that it doesn't matter about his shooting. It's just a little psychological ploy to hopefully get Rafer to quit pressing on the shot and to be able to relax when he fires the ball.

    I don't think it will work. In fact, I look for teams to come out and play off Rafer and double onto Tracy and dare Rafer to beat them. If I was the opposing coach, that's what I'd do. I'd play off Rafer so far, I'd give him 25 shots if I could.
     
  3. IC2000

    IC2000 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    0
    For as bad as Rafer has been playing, we are still winning. He has to shoot all the shots he is because they are mostly good shots. He would be hurting the team by passing on shots. Also, although he is not hitting shots right now he is still a team leader, runs the offense great, is a smart player, creates for others, knows where to be on offense and defense, helps his teammates know where they need to be, and plays good team defense. So he is helping the team in other aspects.
     
  4. IC2000

    IC2000 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    0
    I guarantee the lakers will accidentally leave rafer open alot wed.
     
  5. wreck

    wreck Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    3,551
    Likes Received:
    47
    Whoa I like this from JVG, sure Alston sucks. Everyone knows it, JVG knows it, Rafer knows it. But what kind of coach is going to say "hey that guy sucks im going to play someone else" the pg position is a very sensative position, the fact of the matter is the rockets dont have a better option and i dont think they will this season.

    Just like the texans did with car, they want to instill a positive attitude so that rafer wont feel like the weakest link, which he is. It fits rafers personality, with howard jvg told him he wasnt going to play, howards attitude was work his way back, rafers attitude might be screw this i give up. being a coach is like being a psychologist. Good job by jVG.
     
  6. happyricky

    happyricky Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2002
    Messages:
    750
    Likes Received:
    1
    I guess most people here hate that Alston shot way too much for a PG. If he manages to shoot no more than 10 each game, there won't be as much criticises.
     
  7. davidkconover

    davidkconover Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    174
    Likes Received:
    53
    Watching Rafer is painful at times. But look at our record... he could improve... but as long as we keep winning... I would have a hard time advocating a change. Rafer and Luther make a nice combo for what they are. Small, quick guards who can... on occasion... light it up from outside. That is what we need.
     
  8. yaoza ming

    yaoza ming Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    161
    Likes Received:
    0
    Have you taken a look at the size of their contracts??
     
  9. DVauthrin

    DVauthrin Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 1999
    Messages:
    9,633
    Likes Received:
    7,955
    Rafer Alston is just I can't even describe how awful he is shooting the ball. He went 0-7 tonight inside the 3 pt line and 2-14 overall. At this point, the only reason he is starting over Head is his ballhanding/passing skills.

    And yes, morey/CD better find a competent starter in the trade market asap.
     
  10. hooroo

    hooroo Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2003
    Messages:
    19,293
    Likes Received:
    1,911
    At Marquette Diener was second (behind Novak) in all time 3p made and second in all time assists made.

    When Nelson was out he was the 4th quarter guy at point for the Magic. He's back to collecting DNP's.

    Problem is he's not worth giving up even a 2nd pick because of his contract situation and Padgett, Lucas, and Novak are the only bargaining chips Rockets can use for a straight up swap.
     
  11. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    46,559
    Likes Received:
    11,866
    It is so obvious this is what JVG is doing. It's also obviously the right thing to do. But JVG did mention that Rafer is shooting too many runners and certainly he is "counseling" Rafer in private about things.

    I think at some point Rafer's shooting % will improve. He cannot continue to shoot this abysmally. But opponents will continue to bait him until he finally makes better decisions.
     
  12. Amel

    Amel Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    10,640
    Likes Received:
    5,720
  13. DonkeyMagic

    DonkeyMagic Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2006
    Messages:
    21,604
    Likes Received:
    3,487
    alston is struggling with his shot, but despite contrary belief, ripping him a new one and calling for his head isnt going to help.

    he is the starter, and will be, no matter how much people gripe
     
  14. GRENDEL

    GRENDEL Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2002
    Messages:
    17,462
    Likes Received:
    5,258
    The lay ups he's missing are painful to watch but his D has picked up. Currently, we don't have a better option. Rafer's shooting will pick up, esp. once those lay ups start dropping again
     
  15. gaily

    gaily Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    0
    are you kidding? look at how Gordon playing over RA in 4th quarter.
    for god sakes,JVG made a switch in the last several mins.

     
  16. EssTooKayTD

    EssTooKayTD Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2005
    Messages:
    3,343
    Likes Received:
    74
    Rafer couldn't have played him too much better (edit: without fouling him more), it is BG we are talking about. The guy is a straight up balla.
     
  17. Taothit

    Taothit Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    Which, yes, that move decided the game. However, Gordon is just going to do that to teams. That's what kind of player he is, and outside of Battier, Quentin Ross, Bruce Bowen, or Trenton Hassell-type perimeter defender, he's going to do that to the opposing team's defense. The guy can just fill it up when he gets hot. I don't think you should sink Rafer because he couldn't contain Gordon in the 4th. You should sink him because of his abysmal shooting percentage.

    I swear, if he had prolonged his drought any further than the 0-21 he had going dating back to the T-Wolves game, I was going to start calling him "0-for" Alston.
     
  18. anitasri

    anitasri Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    835
    Likes Received:
    0

    IF a player has natural talent - a la McGrady then you can shoot yourself out of slumps. Let us not make Rafer a Tiger yet- a Good shot is only good, if there is a reasonable expectation it will be made- not when you are CONSISTENTLY clanking it. As others have pointed out- there is a damn good reason why these shots are there in the first place. In JVG's system- offense has to be efficient, every shot Rafer takes and misses, is a shot that Yao or Tmac dont take- and 5-6 crucial shots is where games are decided.
     
  19. brantonli24

    brantonli24 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    3,236
    Likes Received:
    68
    One of the greatest mysteries of the earth: Rafer Alston shoots a horrible percentage, doesn't assist much, and rockets win.


    Seriously, I think the only reason why the Rockets are winning is because of T-Mac. If Alston actually made half of his shots, the points that come would simply augment the team's lead over the opponent. But he isn't, and somehow we still have leads and wins.

    Oh yeah, and I'm wondering why so many people are commenting on Alston's 'improved' defence. When I watced the Jazz game, every time Deron Williams shot, Alston contested it, and the shot went in. But apart from that, he seems to be more steady on defence, staying with his man and contesting jumpshots.
     

Share This Page