Juwan Howard = The Trojan Horse

stangend77 · Mar 5, 2007

DwangBoy said:

I'm sorry to say this, but I really think everytime Juwan is out there, our team becomes one-dimensional on the offensive end.

Everytime Juwan touches the ball, he looks to pass for about 2 seconds, then he goes to work, regardless of incoming double team, and throws up a turn-around hook..

Everytime juwan touches the ball and he's semi-open, he shoots, regardless of an easier shot somewhere else.

Everytime juwan passes, it's an inefficient pass that basically means he concedes to the point that he cannot score that possession.

He tries, in futility, to hustle as effectively as hayes, and his mentality in offensive sets is all wrong. He is taking away from the effects of ball movement and needs to open his mind to "the moment decisions".

I say this because everytime he gets the ball, i can accurately predict what he's going to do with the coverage given him.. i'm sure coaches can do this, too.

Also, I hate the fact that JVG is either a) ruining Luther's game by making him run point... b/c the man cannot dribble and watching him run point makes me want to shoot myself.

or because b) JVG making luther run point is bringing out the reality of Luther's game..... which i cannot hate JVG for.
what i mean by this is that Luther is game shooter.. and when he hits, everyone thinks he's good.. but to me, it's just like juwan. his court vision lacks immensely, he takes unnecessary shots, and he starts using shots to gain confidence. he doesn't ever take notice of the shot clock, etc...

I don't care how much lucas sucks, at least he doesn't turn the ball over 1/3 times or let the shot clock expire on offense every 1/5 times (made up numbers as sarcasm). play him at point please... and stop ruining what's left of luther's game. or...trade luther when everyone thinks he's as good as we make him out to be.

I like rafer's game A LOT!.. true he does a lot of dumb things and can't finish around the basket... but he's confident in the offensive set. You don't see him hesitate or throw inefficient passes just to be throwing passes.. he gets things done and takes initiative..

So basically. that's my rant.. although luther is increasingly angering me game after game, what really gets to me is the predictability of Juwan on the offensive end. Everytime he catches the ball, it's like CRAP.. PLEASE DON'T shoot..... then he'll have a game where he makes his shots and everyones like.. OHHHHHHHHH JUWAN IS SO GOOD!!.. PLEASE, pay attention to the big picture and don't allow this man to become our trojan horse.. i hope JVG reads this.

and i'm done.
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regardless of what you think about him he was a vital piece of why we did what we did w/o yao....so give him some props!!!

Downtown · Mar 5, 2007

DwangBoy said:

and that's fine.. it's subjective as it should be.. i don't understand why half the people here are waiting to get on someone about an opinionated post..
it's like you've all been picked on too many times and are waiting to pick on others..

why don't you just read the info and see if it applies to what you watch.. stop hating the "hater" (even though i'm not hating..)

it's pretty ignorant and hypocritical.
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DwangBoy

I think you may have misconstrued the intent of my post. I am not attacking anything you said, nor your right to rant about it. Except for the Denver game, there is plenty of reason for fans to be ranting and raving. I probably could even agree with some of your conclusions. Yet, I was merely pointing out that within your post your focus on "not finishing at the basket" was what was most germane to me since that was the most evident flaw in the game against the Spurs. Anything else you were saying did not register with me as strongly, positively or negatively, as that did and that is why I said "all of that aside." I was utilizing your descriptive analysis of one player to describe the entire team`s play against the Spurs. In my own thinking, I was affirming you, not attacking you...

DwangBoy · Mar 5, 2007

Downtown said:

DwangBoy

I think you may have misconstrued the intent of my post. I am not attacking anything you said, nor your right to rant about it. Except for the Denver game, there is plenty of reason for fans to be ranting and raving. I probably could even agree with some of your conclusions. Yet, I was merely pointing out that within your post your focus on "not finishing at the basket" was what was most germane to me since that was the most evident flaw in the game against the Spurs. Anything else you were saying did not register with me as strongly, positively or negatively, as that did and that is why I said "all of that aside." I was utilizing your descriptive analysis of one player to describe the entire team`s play against the Spurs. In my own thinking, I was affirming you, not attacking you...
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roger doger, true story. i just think finishing around the basket can be fixed..

juwan's consistent shot taking is what bugs me.. it's probably just me.. i but when i watch him play, it's like he tries to please the coach but has this ulterior motive to get his... (i.e. steal rebounds from his teammates.. i know you've seen this) and it just p!sses me off.. i don't exactly know how to explain it.. but if you watched the game with me and i saw it i would let you know..

DwangBoy · Mar 5, 2007

Yaozer said:

Last year, I wouldn't want Juwan to be taking all these shots.

This year, however, I would much rather have him take those mid range shots than giving Rafer/Head/JL3 a chance to drive in. I see where you're coming from, he does miss those turn-around hooks from time to time, but I think he's been a lot more efficient with his shots this year.

Btw, I'm also not getting this Trojan Horse deal.. if he DOES turn out to be one.. we'll just give him to Dallas
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OK let me explain this metaphor.. haha

juwan spent the beginning of the year on the bench.. JVG didn't want him, we didn't want him.. after yao goes down, he markets himself in the form of this shooting horse..pretty good, hustling all of a sudden.. hey, maybe we'll let him in the rotation and cut hayes' playing time.. fast forward.. playoff time now.

oh crap... looks like the physical part and scoring was great, but now that we've allowed him to penetrate our rotation..... we're doomed..... he tricks the coach into thinking he's useful, but it's just a facade of hustle plays.. the inefficient shots and passes and rebound stealing don't REALLY help.. where is hayes? oh he got shot in the ankle.. but an arrow from Juwan... OH WELL!.. lets pack it up and go home..

hahaha sorry if that doesn't make sense... and it's a pretty big sarcasm.. but it points out what i'm afraid of juwan doing to our team in the long run.

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