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Juwan Howard: "I'm going to get plenty of playing time"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Honey Bear, Oct 2, 2006.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    He played 31 mpg last year........with all the injuries. So, somehow with 111 back and Batt and Bonzi, if we can lower his minutes to 25?????????


    Do you realize that if 111 was healthy, Juwan would not have even averaged 25 mpg last year??????

    And you think he will be effective at 25 mpg this year, one year older, one year slower???????
     
  2. xomox

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    j ho did well when he was the primary scorer but he sucks in the support role. he couldn't hit **** when yao came back.
     
  3. jopatmc

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    All you gotta do is run at Juwan with another perimeter guard and he has to put it on the floor and take it to the paint............where he shoots about 30%.
     
  4. doublebogey

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    Nah, it's a very easy estimation. When you look at the Rockets' roaster, Juwan is still the 6th man in the roaster (barring Bob Sura not playing) no matter how you say Juwan svcks. JVG is expecting a 8-9 players rotation. So, 20-25 mpg for the bench rotational players is normal. Juwan is the 6th man and certainly will end up in the high end of the playing mins.

    Juwan is a good to average player in his career. You guys are just too sacrastic about Juwan because he gets a big contract than his plays now deserve. But Juwan still plays hard. A reduction in play time certainly will keep Juwan more fresh in games. With a healthy Yao & T-Mac, it would certainly help Juwan to have a more effective season.

    Btw, if u said Juwan wouldnt even play 25+ mins last season with a healthy T-Mac and Yao, then u are very wrong. U must be imagining the Rockets had too much talents last season.
     
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    http://www.***************/article_18879.shtml

    Here's my part about Juwan Howard.
    Thoughts?
     
  6. B-balltm

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    Sorry, just noticed the auto-edit from when I posted the link. Is it illegal to post anything from HW on here? If so, I apologize.
     
  7. Zboy

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    B-Balltm.

    EXCELLENT Analysis on Howard!

    Nice use of stats to backup your claims. Confirms what most of us already knew. Playing him hurts the team's success.
     
  8. hooroo

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  9. jopatmc

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    B-balltm,

    I think you read my posts and plagurized them on that other website. I wished you wouldn't post my stuff over there. Because they don't put anything true on there. (I'm trying to be real nice here.) :cool:
     
  10. B-balltm

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    Lol. I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not since this Howard topic has been beat to death here for a while now, but if you weren't, I think you should know I've been pushing for Battier to play PF(and for Houston to sign Wells) since early in the offseason.(Visit the Rockets message board on HW, and scroll down the 1st page for the thread called "Reviewing Summer Moves" which was made way back in July if you want proof). I'm just not very active on this site. I've been more of a lurker.
     
  11. Van Gundier

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    The +/- analysis does show that Juwan was a bad fit, in fact, HORRIBLE fit with last year's team.

    The question is whether he is a better fit with this year's team. We talk about surrounding Yao and TMac with the right guys, but Juwan Howard also needs to be surrounded by the right guys.

    With bigger, better defenders on the team, and possibly matchups against 2nd string PFs or Cs, Howard may still prove to be useful as a backup PF/C. Dikembe may have gas left, but likely not matching up against everyone in the league, particularly smaller lineups or jump shooting teams who simply don't go to the paint that much (rendering his interior defense a moot point). I think Juwan might be useful as someone who draws opposing Cs out of the paint when Yao sits and TMac/Wells, etc need the room to penetrate.

    Then again, if there is a deal to be had for Howard with the Rockets getting back a better fitting role player, I'd do it.
     
  12. Rocket Rowdie

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    I'm almost 100% positive that Battier will start. We didn't trade Gay and Stromile to get a bench player. The real question is who's coming off the bench: Howard or Wells?

    IMO, Howard is washed up, and he can't play defense. Are line-up was way too old. Starting Wells and Battier will give our team much more athletism, and with that I believe we can play at a quicker pace (where Rafer will begin to be a key factor). If we're going to have a small PF, why not have one who can actually play D and is an all-around player?
     
  13. MONON

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    JHo is probably the 6th or 7th best player on the team. So he will play in a 8 man rotation. His stats for last season are schewed by the number of games missed by TMac & Yao and our lack of outside shooting. Without TMac & Yao, he was in the paint which was clogged by 2 & 3 defenders; since we couldn't hit an outside shot. Under those conditions, anyone's shooting percentage will be down. Yet he averaged 25 points in that situation.

    He's an average to good player that will help us out. The addition of Battier & Wells and a healthy Yao & TMac will limit his minutes at the 4 & increase his minutes at the backup 5(probably against lesser players). His shooting stats should be better this year.
     
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    Monon, I agree with jopatmc and bball that Juwan cannot cut it. Too slow, no hops, bottom quartile of nba 4's. If he has any role it is backup C with the youngsters because he can move faster and shoot better than Mutombo. I see Juwan as a liability next to Yao.

    He cannot compete with Battier and Hayes. And as the Novak's Span's and other youngsters grow in confidence and ability to help run the offense and make it flow, and play at least as good defense as JHo (which is not saying much) then JHo continues to lose time in every possible platooning scheme - except replacing Mutombo in a small fast 2nd string unit to play vs the Suns of the NBA.

    But then maybe Haryasz sticks and beats Jho out at C as well.

    Wait and see.
     
  15. jopatmc

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    6th or 7th best player on the team!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!



    Good god almighty, we in twubbol, we in twubbol!!!!!

    In the paint??? He shoots about 35% in the paint. He tries to avoid the low block like the plague. He can't bang, he has no foot quickness for the spin moves, and he has no elevation. Paint!?!?!?!?!?! It rhymes with GRILL in Juwan's dictionary (you know, back in his grill).

    You must be getting Juwan confused with Josh up in Dallas. Juwan stands at the top of the key and catches and shoots. In fact, he's stood there so much that there are indented foot prints on both ends of TC where he stands. He spent 31 mpg standing there last year until somebody threw him the rock.

    We've got to keep him on the bench this season just to give the groundskeepers some time to grow some grass in those indentions and fill them in.

    Averaged 25 points???? When??? Are you talking about the 23 hour stretch in the middle off the season where he averaged 25 points???



    I'll spot you Rybo and Hairyasz, Juwan is better than them, ......maybe. But pray tell me, who else???

    Juwan is simply too slow, and nonathletic to guard even the Chris Webbers of the NBA, much less Marion, Garnett, and the rest. They all lick their chops everytime they see him waddling over to check them. Juwan should only be getting backup center minutes behind Yao. That's it.
     
  16. docgundy

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    Haha Juwan got no PT.
     
  17. Desert Scar

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    And SB/Hayes did so well tonight versus an above average PF.
     
  18. Luffy1

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    Howard sucks. We needed bonzi tonight, but jvg won't play him! :mad:
     
  19. docgundy

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    The groin is very sensitive. Usually you don't go full speed/contact until maybe a week after you begin working out. Bonzi will be ready Saturday. That should give him plenty of time to work things out.
     
  20. smoothie

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    maybe he meant that he will get a lot of playing time in practice?
     

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