Juwan Howard: "I'm going to get plenty of playing time"

Oh boy, just what we need: Another thread to inflame the Juwan haters.

 

I bet in JVG's eyes Battier has some things going for him that Swift never had - basketball IQ and a great work ethic. He leaves it all on the floor. We always knew Swift could do more. JVG will love Shane Battier. Defensive player, accurate shot, work ethic, high basketball IQ.

 

Ways to dump JHo:

New York: Malik Rose

Seattle: (+Head, Sura, Rybo) Earl Watson & Fortson
Recent change of ownership. Sonics dump Watson's longer contract, they lack overall depth, this trade would give them that Juwan included.

Atlanta: Zaza
Hawks have only have 3 genuine bigs, all defense-minded, Juwan would suit them well in experience and ability.

Golden State: (+Head, Rybo) Dunleavy jr & Biedrens
Dunleavy is GSW's fans very own JHo. They dump a larger contract.

The Rest: Unwanted

 

I'd jump all over that.

Would give us a decent backup bigman which we are still lacking.

 

Uh, no. They don't. The reason why Juwan actually put up some decent numbers when Yao was out was because he faced single coverage. The other teams correctly decided that Juwan could not beat them consistently enough, and they were right.

 

I don't think juwon should come off the bench at all. Does anyone remember when he was forced to come off the bench behind Mo Taylor about 2-3 years ago? How horrible was he....If he's not playing starting minutes, I'd say leave him Inactive, because he will NOT help us off the bench.

 

if we do need juwan to start and play more than 20 minutes, you know we're in trouble. chances are though we won't, because i still believe our team, even with a bench overloaded with rookies, were better than we were in 04-05.

 

I think will get his fair share of opportunities. However, I feel that he'll squander them by not rebounding and just flat out being outplayed by Battier. I honestly could care less if he starts, because Battier will probably get more late game minutes than . Remember the whole Kenny Smith/Sam I Am dynamic? Not exactly the same thing, but you get the idea.

 

With Juwan, TMac, Yao, and Alston starting last year this was a very good team. I see no reason why they would not continue that, replacing Wesley in the lineup with Battier and sliding TMac to the 2 (JVG says the 2 and 3 are interchangeable anyway). I don't see starting Juwan as any more of a gamble than starting Wells or Snyder.

 

Juwan is a decent player and the only legit PF on this team with any experience. So yes, he will start and get plenty of minutes. Howard actually complements Yao fairly well on the frontline because of his ability to knock down mid range shots. I don't think that it hurts the team to have Juwan as the starter. Wells can be the sixth man and instant offense off the bench.

C Yao
PF Juwan
SF Battier
SG TMac
PG Rafer

 

thats a good line up if the team we're playing comes in big also.

if we're playing a phoenix or another up and down, small ball unit, then the way to go is pushing Battier to 4 and sliding Wells in at 3.

either way this year we'll have options and depth.

 

All of a sudden there is no mention of Bonzi or Chuck Hayes.....

Put those two in the rotation which pushes Battier to the 4 and Chuck getting backup minutes, and that leaves Juwan a few minutes backing up Yao when Mutombo is tired.

The team's plus/minus improves dramatically with Battier and Hayes taking minutes away from Juwan and Bonzi in the lineup as well. The team's energy goes up. Yao gets fewer cheap fouls covering Juwan's defensive misses.

Not a hater, just realistic.

 

I'm not sure if Juwan will be a very effective bench player on this team. I think he might be pretty effective subbing in for Yao when he is out of the game. I know he has no interior defense whatsoever but with our hopefully improved team defense it shouldn't make a big difference. He will cause mismatches on the other end and there are very few effective centers in the league anymore. Also, all 5 of our players on the court can be solid jump shooters. I know there are some mixed feelings about this but I think against certain jump shooting teams with a scrub center Juwan will be a very good backup 5. Against better centers and teams that take it to the rim often then we have Dikembe to backup Yao. I just don't see Juwan getting a lot of touches at backup power forward this season because he is so overmatched.

 

when you bring someone off the bench you usually want them to bring in soem energy and change the pace of the game. Howard doesnt do that so i dont know why ppl think him coming off the bench would help the rockets.

 

IIRC - When we had both MoT and Howard, Howard was horrible off the bench. I think JVG will start Howard but he may see equal time at the C spot. I don't think JVG will bench him as quickly as some bbsers here would.

Personally I'd like to see them trade Howard for a pg and Rafer for a pf but I'm not sure either would get us an improvement in either position.

 

Yeah, I know I don't see him being an effective player as a starter or a bench player anymore.

 

no need to worry. if JVG starts howard and/or gives him extended minutes, he's fired and replaced with rick adelman this summer.

 

Despite his height, Chuck Hayes is a much better PF, who actually does things like rebounding and making high percentage shots in the paint. I would also rather play Battier out of position than give Juwan the minutes.

-Out of players with a significant amount of playing time, Juwan's 49.4 TS% nearly puts him in the bottom 20% in scoring efficiency.

-His 14.9 points per 40 minutes is quite mediocre.

-Juwan's rebounding percentage of 12.4 is one of the worst among big men.

-Juwan's 12.6 PER rating nearly puts him in the bottom 30% overall.

-He blocks less shots than many PGs.

-The team's Bothoffensive and defensive efficiencies[/url] were both significantly lower when he was on the court.

He will undeservingly get playing time, just like he did in 2005-2006 over two superior PFs.

Player Pair stats for the team.

Yao's individual stats do not seem to be affected that much by Howard's presence on the court. However, it should be noted that when Howard and Yao were on the court together, the team usually LOST. That suggests that Howard and Yao aren't a winning combination.

I'm worried about Wells being the "instant offense" or "third scorer" that a lot of fans in this forum think he will be. Wells's per-minute scoring is above average (although nothing spectacular), but his TS% is actually quite poor at 50.7%. He's not an efficient scorer, even though he gets a ton of high percentage post ups and dunks. That's because he can barely hit a jumpshot. Bonzi was also a turnover machine, turning over 13% of the possessions he personally used up. Wells's scoring was above average only because his usage rate was high, and he got plenty of opportunities to shoot.

Wells IS a good player overall, and I am happy that the team got him. Acquisitions like Wells and Snyder are far superior to crap like David Wesley, even if they're not THAT good. Looking over Wells's stats, it seems to me that he's an overall good player (16.8 PER) not because of scoring, but because of OTHER things: His rebounding percentage is ridiculously high for a SG (matching many big men), and he got a ton of steals (a terrific 1.81 spg in just 32.4 mpg).

The signing of Bonzi is an offseason success, but I am concerned about how he'll fit into the team. He's not the scorer that a lot of people seem to think he is, and I wonder how a post up guard with no outside shot can operate alongside Yao. Bonzi was able to do his thing in Sacramento because they run an inverted motion offense, with Brad Miller stepping out to the high post and feeding it to slashers. How will Bonzi play with Yao (who thrives in low post) and JVG, who is uncreative and slow paced offensively?

 

Terrific analysis of Bonzi's game, JimRaynor. I think when Bonzi's on the floor with Yao, he'll be spending most of his time on the weak side of the floor while Yao posts up, either cutting to the basket or crashing the boards. I'm sure he'll even work some on his 3 point-shooting, which hasn't been very good of late but has been decent in the past (38% in his best year).

 

"plenty of playing time" might mean 18 minutes to a 40 year old.