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[justice] Mclane article

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by NJRocket, Jun 8, 2005.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I'm not trying to take a shot you guys' uncle. Calm down.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Marlins
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  3. MadMax

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    DC United
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  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Exactly, you don't have a response. MLB probably has had a more diverse group of champions the past few years than the NBA.
     
  5. Rocketman95

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    Crap Max, we forgot to run our posts through the pgabriel authorization system.

    This post not approved by pgabriel.
     
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    LOUD NOISES!!!
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Whatever dude, you guys are the ones who act like Drayton can do no wrong. I try to say that I wasn't critizing him and you still want to argue with me.
     
  9. xiki

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    Because you think Justice is such a dolt, and when DMc was 'on the clock' he got clocked. Hate RJ all you want but your attack sounded like an anti-McLane in Richard's toggery.
     
  10. MadMax

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    yeah...you got me, pgabriel.

    the Marlins are an aberration. The Angels are from freaking Los Angeles, pgabs. and the Diamondbacks spent so much they're in debt they can't dig out of.

    but yeah..it's just like the NBA. you're right. where teams from places like San Antonio win titles. it's EXACTLY the same.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    Whatever dude, I was just trying to point out that the reason the Astros didn't have championships wasn't because of the owner, since that's clearly what your post implied.

    post not approved by pgabriel.
     
  12. MadMax

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    i don't know what any of that means...but if it's bad to be a dolt, than Justice is that.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    And all I was trying to point out is that you shouldn't criticize the one owner in town who's teams do have championships, regardless of how you feel about the other ones.
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    I have no idea what this means.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    Gotcha.
     
  16. SamCassell

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    That was Biggio, right? :)

    I'd definitely put more blame on Biggio (and, to a lesser extent, Bagwell) than McLane for the postseason failures in 97, 98, 99, and 01. A team's not going to win if its leadoff hitter never gets on base. McLane and Hunsicker let alot of pitching get away in those years, but the starting staff continually put up good performances in the postseason, and they brought in guys to make us competitive. If our future Hall of Famers had hit like they did in the regular season, we would have had a legitimate championship shot in 98 and perhaps some of those other postseasons.
     
  17. pgabriel

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    I see how it looks like I was criticizing Drayton but I wasn't trying to. But if I were, please don't go to the he can't compete card when he goes out of his way to sign contracts based on sentimentality. No one should be arguing he can't compete while Bagwell's contract is still on the books.
     
  18. NJRocket

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    I don't know if there is a better option for an owner out there or not. I dont think a guy like Tilman Fertitta would be any better of an owner than Matress Mac or GWB Sr for that matter.

    We have had success with Drayton despite him not swinging the biggest mickey at the winter meetings. I think part of our success has to be attributed to Hun's ability to GM...part to our scouts and their ability to find diamonds in the rough...and part to Drayton's willingness to pull the trigger on a June-July deal that helps us almost get to the promised land. I guess I just have a hard time believing that he is making any less (or losing any more) than anyone else outside of the yanks, bosox,mets, O's or Dodgers.

    This year's trading deadline and more importantly, this offseason, is going to be very telling...because even with another yr under their belts, I dont see the young guys that we are toting out there (bidge and berk excluded) making us contenders next year either.
     
  19. Drewdog

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    I am soooooooooo sick and tired of Drayton whining about how he fu#king loses money each and every year. Why do you own the team Drayton? If you are losing so much damn money, then sell it!

    My guess is the guy is lying. A smart Billionaire businessman like DMC wouldnt be involved in something that is netting a loss for him year-in and year-out. Just doesnt make smart business or financial sense to lose money every year.

    Liar Liar pants on fire!

    :mad:
     
  20. NJRocket

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    logic would tell me that as well....its hard to believe...UNLESS he uses the Astros loss as a write off on his other capital gains each year...in which case, he really shouldnt own the team...but i cant see that being the case.
     

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