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Just what part of war on terror does neo-demos support?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. NewYorker

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    First of all, determined terrorists will succeed. Period. Doesn't matter what. We can only affect the timing, not the outcome.

    Second. Bush is much worse against terrorism for the fact that he's inflexible, uncooperative with those who question, and generally employed a strategy in the middle east that created more terrorist then removed them.

    In the latest plot, the suspects family and friends went on a lot about how angry the were regarding iraq. So actually, one can say that Bush inspired the latest plot with his misadventure into Iraq -therefore making us less safe. With Clinton, this plot might never be inspired.

    How many more terrorists is Bush creating every day? Who is our worst enemy?

    I say, we need to get rid of this Bozo before he can do any more damage to our nation. He's already created terrorists, and he's already shredded the reputation of this country, he's also created a mess in the middle east. How many lives have been lost due to his miscalculations and cronism?

    How many died in New Orleans unnecessarily? How many died in Iraq unnecessarily? How many in Lebannon died that may not have died if Bush was able to push Israel towards peace like Clinton had done?

    Gross incompetience should not be defended.
     
  2. ROXRAN

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    I don't think I have said it but I wish and pray the best for your nephew. Any word on when his service is complete? Is he "crazy" like my cousin (Army) who chose to stay further than required? ( I forgot to say he's back now...He told my Mom he would sometimes go days without eating...We are not that close as cousins/friends, and I wish I could badger him with tons of questions...)I know it takes a certain type to be in the Marines that I find impressive...The rest of the armed services as well...Not trying to discount the other military branches, but the U.S. Marines seem to have that special "stand out" history throughout America's military situations...
     
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    Thanks Franchise Blade for the props, I appreciate your family for serving our country too!

    Americans have a right to their political beliefs, opinions and affiliations, that what makes our country so great, try that somewhere else and you're in for a rude awakening as I can vouch for that being a first generation immigrant.

    But I happened to think the left thinking is just plain wrong, America was great not because a bunch of liberals started it but because of men and women of God (yes, I do mean a Christian God) fearing, of ingenuity, of courage and foresight trail blazed their way to a land what we called America today.

    Is she perfect? Hell no, but name me one country on earth that is perfect?

    In times of trouble right now, we don't need any wish wash flip-floppers(I'm no Bush fan, he angered me on many issues) , we however need someone who is strong and understands the foundation of America to protect & serve the American people and make our nation great again.

    You're not going to find that in the left because I know they don't have a clue.

    As for Clinton did more than Bush against terrorism, I stood my grounds ,because common sense dictates that there are only 24 hours in a day, and if you spent more than half of those defending yourself again numerous sexual allegations, chances are you will not fight Osama very effectively!
     
  4. generalthade_03

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    Hey Roxan,
    You're right about the marines, my uncle was a marine in Vietnam, when I went to basic traing in Lackland in 1985 it was only 6 weeks long, my highschool buddy was in the marines and his was 12 or 13 weeks, he got it rough!
     
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    Yes, but who was bringing up all those charges and putting clinton on the defensive...and who accused clinton of trying to create a phony war to distract against Lewinsky when Clinton did go after Bin Laden....

    Oh my - it was the REPUBLICANS!!!!!

    Maybe if the republicans were more focused on our country and less focused on where Clinton's dong was, we'd be in better shape.
     
  7. generalthade_03

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    At first he denied it then later he confessed, were those charges falsely lobbed against him by the republicans?

    Are you still believing in Mr Hillary"It's a far vast right wing conspiracy against my husband."
     
  8. Master Baiter

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    And people wondered why I said that the vast majority of the people that I encountered in the military were idiots. It's because none of them could ever think or reason on their own. They drink the Koolaid.

    I can't believe what our country has become.
     
  9. Master Baiter

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    Getting your dick sucked isn't even in the same realm as starting an unprovoked war THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR POPULATION DOES NOT SUPPORT. Bush's lies about why we are going to war are infinitely more destructive than Clinton lying about a god damn blowjob. He got a blowjob. Who cares. It isn't against the law to screw around on your wife.
     
  10. generalthade_03

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    Hey, those vast majority of idiots fought and died so arrogants, elitists and cowards can sit at homes in their undies behind their keyboards and call those brave soldiers idiots.

    Nice!
     
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    For the most part, I beleive 9/11 would have happend regarldess of who was president then and who was president the term before.

    What worries me is the stance that has been taken. After 9/11 I was all for Afghanistan, but not for the patriot act. I, a Muslim born in Houston, have certain rights that have been granted to me upon my birth. The fact that some people advocate limiting the rights of many honest Americans, is down right sickening and scary. I understand when I am at the airport, i get random checks, asked questions, that doesnt offend me too much. But to violate my rights with in my home, is outrageous, and those who support this have never been discriminated against.

    This administration has made every policy based on FEAR. The administration is scared, so in turn the people are scared. One thing about clinton i remeber is that he was always confident and clear, and the people would be conforted. When I see president Bush get asked a simple question and get rattled, that spreads fear across americans, and gives people like Coutler and others the forum to to spread more fear, based on thier fears because they dont understand

    I have typically favored a republican administration, but this admistration's FEAR policies have taken all accountability that I cannot trust it anymore. We have been lied to as a people, policies are made out of fear that enrage people in the middle east and south asia. I dont see this administration doing anything at all to end it, rather implement its own FEAR doctrines even more in to our society.

    Its not about what part of the war on terror the neo demos support, but ask your self what is wrong right now with OUR CURRENT war on terror. That is what matters, and that is what needs to be corrected. If you say there is nothing wrong, then you need to really open your eyes and talk to your neighbors, and see the miserable lives we are maintaining across the middle east.

    You want to profile Arabs, al quadia will get asians or africans.
    You want to profile Muslims, al quadia will get thier operatives to convert and mix.

    You want to target Americans, our war on terror will fail, because the citizens will always be terrorized...
     
  12. SamFisher

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    If you think the men who started America weren't liberals in the political sense, you need some remedial American History, chico.
     
  13. Master Baiter

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    Yeah because I never served. How do you think I came to that conclusion, Lemming?
     
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    does this apply to both repubs and libs? or just libs?

    let me ask you, are the majority who are in the frontlines and died for the war on terror libs or repubs?
     
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    Yeah because I never served. How do you think I came to that conclusion, Lemming?

    Let me take a crack at this: assuming that you served in the military and you called the vast majority of the people you encountered in the military idiots, I can only come to these conclusions:

    A) You were never in the military, you just made that **** up to impress posters. People who actually served already knew the courage it took so they won't insult another soldier by labeling them idiots.

    B) You served but your experience was not a good one so you turned bitter. Hey , I can understand that, **** happens and that why the military has AWOLs, CRIMINAls etc.....

    C) You are clearly not understand about life and people: the people in the military are just like their civilian counterparts, you have your smart ones , you got the somewhere in between and then there's the bottom of the food chain.

    But for you to call the vast majority of service men and women you met were idiots, I don't know what military service you were in (maybe the Thais :)) I know for damn sure it wasn't the US!
     
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    What's your point?
     
  18. NewYorker

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    The repubs were desperate...they searched for years to find something on Whitewater, and when they couldn't - which is why a special prosecuter was appointed...they went after his private sex life. Talk about government in people's lives!!!! How hypocritical are republicans for that. They were trying to embarras him...

    So the repubs were more interested in taking down Clinton then anything else. They didn't care about Bin Laden...if fact when clinton stroke out against Bin Laden, many republicans accused Clinton of "wag the dog" techniques...how disgusting that appears in retrospect. I think all those republicans who said that should resign. They are the ones who started playing politics with our national security.

    It was republicans who are more interested in taking down a president at any cost versus our national security.

    It was the republicans who sent our brave soldiers to die for nothing. Iraq is a quagmire...another vietnam. Americans are now dying to prevent a civil war - not to fight terrorists.

    There were no terrorists in Iraq before the invasion.

    Iraq has inspired many new terrorist recruits - including the foiled london hijacking plot.

    Neo-cons have destroyed the republican party and led us on a path to ruin. When Pat Buchannan and conservatives are calling Bush out of control...there is something wrong with Bush.

    We must get him out of the White House...
     
  19. SWTsig

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    yep...
     
  20. SWTsig

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    while i respect your service to our country, this nation is no more your's than it is mine.

    so what's your point again?
     

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