Just watched Recount on HBO.

gr8-1 · May 26, 2008

ROXTXIA said:

Jesus, automatically this thread goes to a tangential topic.

As far as Recount, I haven't seen it, but I don't suppose they actually had the guts to get past all the recounts and hanging chads and talk about how Katherine Harris ("pink sugar!") colluded with others to scrub nearly 100,000 poor people from the voter rolls? 50% of whom were black? And I don't mean 100,000 recividists or whatever, I mean, try showing up to vote and not being able to do so because your name was "misprinted" or your SSN was transposed.

There was really a lot more than this. Read The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. Greg Palast wrote it; he's a journalist Dems and Repubs both hate and admire, depending on the individual he has in his sights.
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Rox, according to the movie, they didn't allow those that had similar names to the convicts to vote.

rimrocker · May 26, 2008

bmb4516 said:

Are we still talking about this? The unofficial recounts went on for at least another two years and in EVERY case, Bush won. You may not like the man, you may not like his presidency, but he did win. It's almost over. For those of you that hate Bush, just pray that the Democrats don't screw it up. There are a lot of incompetant people running the Democratic party, if anyone can ruin things this election, it's them.
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Wrong. Horribly, horribly wrong. Jeez, every few months I have to shoot this winger tale down:

Review of All Ballots Statewide (never undertaken)

Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their survey--Gore by 171

Fully punched chads and limited marks on optical ballots--Gore by 115

Any dimples or optical mark--Gore by 107

One corner of chad detached or optical mark--Gore by 60
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Review of Limited Sets of Ballots (initiated but not completed)

Gore request for recounts of all ballots in Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Volusia counties--Bush by 225

Florida Supreme Court of all undervotes statewide--Bush by 430

Florida Supreme Court as being implemented by the counties, some of whom refused and some counted overvotes as well as undervotes--Bush by 493
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Unofficial recount totals

Incomplete result when the Supreme Court stayed the recount (December 9, 2000)--Bush by 154
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Certified Result (official final count)

Recounts included from Volusia and Broward only Bush by 537
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The official tallies were extraordinarily, impossibly close. What won it for the Repubs was voter intimidation and suppression and blind luck regarding the butterfly ballot. Without those actions, it's not close enough to go to the Supreme Court.

WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (CNN) -- Voters confused by Palm Beach County's butterfly ballot cost Al Gore the presidency, The Palm Beach Post concluded Sunday.

The newspaper's review of discarded ballots found Gore lost 6,607 votes when voters marked more than one name on the county's "butterfly ballot." A leading Republican called the finding "speculation."

Voters who marked Gore's name and that of another candidate totaled more than 10 times the winning margin Bush received to claim Florida's 25 electoral votes and the White House, the Post concluded. The newspaper said the result was "an indictment of the butterfly ballot, political experts and partisan observers agree."

The newspaper's review of the overvotes found 5,330 Palm Beach County residents invalidated their ballots by punching chads for Gore and Reform Party candidate Pat Buchanan. The hole voters punched for Buchanan was located just above Gore's on the two-page ballot.

The ballots showed another 2,908 voters punched Gore and Socialist David McReynolds, whose hole appeared just below Gore's. Buchanan's and McReynolds' names appeared on the right page of the ballot, while Gore's was on the left.

The confusion hurt Bush, too: 1,631 people punched Bush and Buchanan, whose hole was below his on the ballot. But Gore was the bigger loser: the two Gore combinations, minus the Bush-Buchanan votes, totaled 6,607 lost votes for Gore, the Post found.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/palmbeach.recount/
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http://dir.salon.com/story/politics/feature/2000/12/04/voter_file/index.html

Rocket River · May 26, 2008

IF it happened in any other country . . .
where someone was elected leader . . . .
Where that someone was the son of a former Chiif of the 'Secret Police' and a previous leader as well
and
he only won
because he won the state that HIS BROTHER *PROMISED* him he would win . . .

Well . . .we'd cry foul . . . but it happened in America. . .and we just know
it is right

Rocket River

pgabriel · May 29, 2008

good movie, i thought it was fair, not to leaning towards the left.

Classic · May 29, 2008

Deckard said:

Another conspiracy buff. I'd say, "give me a ****ing break," but I just don't have the energy.

Impeach Bush.
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I find Hillary to be a complete moron but at the same time, my 'conspiracies' are based on the fact that I don't believe in coincidences throughout world history. I believe many things, at their root, are similar to many situations that have already played out in our history. I believe these things because I believe that people, for the most part and especially those with money and power, are predicatable through basic human mannerism's. If that defines conspiracy, well, then so be it.

Impeach Bush.

jgreen91 · May 30, 2008

Did Bush recently "chest bump" an army general?

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