can you teach me more about what you know of the league? you seem know a lot about me, or want to reach out and know more. Maybe it's to fill the void left by Scola leaving? You poor thing...
<br> This. And Scola actually probably outperformed Landry as well. It's like when we signed Trevor Ariza. Where were the trevor only fans back then to tell us we had no right to compare Ariza to Artest? Or that we shouldn't compare him to Battier. Or hell, Courtney Lee after him.
I agree on the PPG but I think his assists ceiling is much higher. He had 8 tonight without much trouble and sat out a good amount due to fouls, not to mention Morris robbed him of at least 2 easy assists. Harden's not getting 12 dimes every night and I think Lin will fill in that gap. I think he will average a minimum of 8 assists, possibly double digits once he gets rolling.
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No problem answering. First, he needs to protect the ball better. Fact of the matter is Harden is a better playmaker (he was in OKC too in regards to Westbrook) so Lin needs to adjust to that (I know we didnt have Harden when Lin signed so that may take some time). I'd also like to see him shoot the ball like he did in NY. I do realize he's a P@R player but now that he has defer to Harden so his mid range game will have to be elevated. He's also a poor defender. Honestly, I just don't see him as a starting NBA pg. Never did. That's not a knock on him as I think he's getting the most out of his ability,
This is incredible! Rockets just won a game and fans can't celebrate without all this nonsense. The whole lot of posts in this thread are just crap. Every players on Rockets are great with some exception. This is team play. No one player can't win a game by himself. For the sake of Clutchfans, just stop!!!!
<br> People who consider Mike Conley to be a high tier point guard make me lol hard. As does the entire Memphis franchise in general, but that's another story altogether.
I was being modest across the board with everyone. I actually think Harden could be over 25+ and Lin could very well be around 8 asts, but I don't see him getting to 18ppg, yet I won't be disappointed as long as he does the other things to help us win. He's shown great Def all preseason, that I did not expect.
Don't forget Step Curry: 2/14, 4 TOs, 5 points. And yet Curry is a top tier PG while Lin is a backup. huh.
Yeah. I noticed this from pre-season where they had him playing off the ball a lot. Also they had him being the quarterback of the offense. From twitter it seem like Lin said that he is adamant about wanting to just be a point guard & not a scoring guard. I said from the very beginning that this is a great decision by McHale. They are doing this for the right reasons & putting him in a position where he can be successful. I think at the end of the season if he is among the top end of PG's in terms of assists & continues to be at the top end in steals that would be huge. While keeping his TO's down & getting like you said 14-16 ppg. Also needs to keep up the defensive effort & keeping fighting for rebounds he is a great rebounder for his position. There was this play where he was jumping in the air trying to grab the ball from a piston player & he got it. It was just before he ran the fast break & got that bs call against him that fouled him out. Anyway that was one of the things Morey said that he liked about Lin when he signed it I believe they call it 50 50 plays & Lin was good at that in NY last year (he won a jump ball over shawn marion). Anyway I totally agree with you and rollsroyce in terms of ppg & around 8 assists. For those worrying about Lins outside shot he was never a good perimeter shooter lol. He took 8 shots from the top of the key last year and only one went in & that was the game winner. Big thing he does that annoys me is keep his foot on the line. Take one step back & get the three instead of the two. Did that in NY too drove me mad.
LOL I can't believe what I am reading in this thread. You would think the Rockets had lost and Lin was terrible in that game
I usually lurk here, but there's so many false facts in this biased "hater" statement I had to respond. You don't know what you're talking about so you should probably take a back-seat in all basketball discussions. People like this just spreads repeated criticism in the media just for the sake of hating. First off, he is not slow. He's has one of the fastest first steps in the league(why do you think he blows by people so easily and gets into the lane with ease, even though he seems "sluggish"). Basketball is a team sport, if Harden had the ball all the time with no one to play with then he would be double and triple teamed. More playmakers are better than less, that's why Ginobli/Parker were such a strong combo in their prime. That's why there's at least 2-3 top-tier offensive options on any contender(previous year sample: Heat-Lebron, Bosh, Wade; Lakers- Gasol,Bynum, Kobe; Celtics- Pierce, Allen,Garnet; OKC- Durant,Westbrook, Harden,Spurs; Ginobli, Parker, Duncan, etc) If he's a back up PG, half the starting PG's in the league would be a back up PG. Raymond Felton, DJ Augustin, Jose Calderon, Mario Chalmers, Kirk Hinrich, Rodney Stuckey, Luke Ridnour, Jrue Holiday, Mo Williams, Jameer Nelson, Brandon Jennings, Darren Collison, George Hill, etc were all starting PG's last year for their respective teams, and are considered by the majority to be worse than Lin. How can Lin not defend? Again another popular myth by people who don't watch the game and instead repeat ESPN(from last year). He's becoming one of the better defenders in the PG talent, he's big for a PG so you can see how he bothers opposing PG(today's game is a great example, if you watched it, stuckey and knight shot tough shots, combining for 6-25 FG and I saw many times where they took tough shots/passes because of Lin). Lin is worth more than Dragic or Lowry, who most likely hit their ceiling, because Lin's ceiling is still unknown/banking on potential. No risk, no glory. Nash was much older than Lin before he was considered a great PG, at Lin's age he was being bounced off teams that would later regret it. Dragic, who is still young, was still considered just a solid back up PG and a no-name 2 years ago. Lin is at that age, and still has huge potential. Whether he reaches it is a question, but if he does, people will be eating crow. Since people love to compare Lin to Dragic, Lin's run last season since being a starter was much greater statistically, and the most important thing that got him recognition is he was winning games and his team was better and winning more games when he played then when he sat out. His efficiency rate was off the charts. Dragic just posted stats and let his team get knocked of the 8th seed, while losing more games then winning when Lowry was at point. People aren't amazed when players post nice stats on losing team, there's many players who do this on lottery teams going nowhere where they are the 1st-3rd option/get a lot of freedom but they aren't considered legit until they do it on a winner. Because of this, no one will care about the stats of Dragic/Lowry unless they put up historic numbers or their teams start winning with them putting up nice statlines and they are seen as a reason for their team winning. Dragic had 5 years of consistent playtime to get to this level which is probably his peak, while Lin's peak is still unknown. Again, if he reaches it or not is another question. If Lin puts up decent numbers and wins, people will see him as a good PG, but even if Lin puts up 20/6 if his team has a losing record he'll just be another stat padding PG on a losing team. Aaron Brooks had a season where he put up 19.6/5.6, what is considered? A mid-tier PG/back up PG. 8 assists a game like tonight is great, if he's scoring less but he can maintain that assist line with wins, he'll be considered a great PG. Most important stats for PG are points/assists and wins, Rondo avg'ed 10/8 last season but is considered a top 5 PG. Why? Because he impacts the game, like Lin can. Plus what Lin did tonight is basically what Rubio got praised and raved as a potential top PG last year, except Lin is a much better shooter/FG% then Rubio probably ever will be(Rubio is a career .374 FG% shooter and shot a atrocious .357 FG% last year for the Timberwolves while avging 10 pts/8 assists per game). His team is much better when he's on the court then off(same when he was on NY). Lin also avg's 4-5 reb a game, because he's relatively big for a PG. I also want to clear up his TO myth that comes with Jeremy Lin. Ever since his Linsanity runs, people nitpick at his TO regardless of his usage rate. Did you know Deron Williams have the highest TO rate in the league last year avging like 5 TO a game, yet I never saw anyone say he was a TO prone PG. Again, Deron Williams is also a ball dependent PG. I can bring up more statistics if you want, but most ball dependent PG's avg the a similar TO rate to Jeremy Lin(Steve Nash avgs one of the highest TO rates, and had a higher TO rate than Lin, but who ever blames him for TO?). Most (good) guards who are ball-dependent have a high TO rate, and Lin's is quite avg contrary to the myth that is pushed by people like you. Jeremy Lin was also top 5 in steals last year factoring his avg since he started. People point out his 4 TO today, but what about his 4 steals? Your opinion is not harsh. Just completely stupid and misinformed in front of facts(not expecting much from a person who recites lines from ESPN and doesn't watch the game anyways). I hope you or anyone else doesn't repeat these falsified opinions because the facts to prove them wrong are all out there.
