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Just on CNBC: Tilman might be forced to sell

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TilmanFinancialWindfall, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. SamFisher

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    Lol, they're not *my* benchmark - they're *the* "benchmark" if by benchmark you mean reality.

    Rarely do you have teams admit they overpaid for an offseason signing within weeks, rather than months or years but in Arizas case it happened twice in 2 offseasons, which is why he has had 5 enployers in the last 2 years.

    But yeah maybe he had something left in the tank worth a way abovemarket deal. There's 25 other NBA he hasn't played for recently who might prove you right.
     
  2. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    Hopefully he didn't open up his fat mouth and said something stupid like he normally does, such as:

    "I'm doing them a favor by buying them lunch today and they need to shut up and listen and realize I did them a big fat favor by firing their lazy azz cuz now they make more money from unemployment benefit payment and the extra $600 a week from the FEDS than the $10 a hour I was paying their slob ass."


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    Owner @TilmanJFertitta and @HoustonRockets brought lunch today to the employees at the Houston Emergency Center.
     
  3. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    I'm trying to think of another player that keeps getting over paid, but I can't think of anyone other than Ariza.

    Lakers, Rockets, Wiz, Rockets again
     
  4. YOLO

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    and yet continuing to get those deals and someone who the rockets have sorely missed and never was replaced up until a few months ago as my post said
     
  5. SamFisher

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    They sorely missed him but as his last 4 employers have found out, he's not that player anymore either.

    Life happens. Players age out of usefulness. I can't think of a better example than Ariza.
     
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    His last “employers” are the likes of losing teams. Ariza is the player you add to a winning core. Not a losing one. Ariza looked pretty useful when he played the rockets not too long ago, in a win
     
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  7. SamFisher

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    Yet only losing teams were willing to shell out big money for him.

    Hypothesis: because it is a bad investment? Like I said we have only run this over 1/6 of the NBA in the last 18 months or so. Maybe cwe need more data to come in!
     
  8. YOLO

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    After making pennies with the rockets for years, good for him to chase that money. Smart actually
     
  9. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    I wonder what the Rockets is really worth today if Tilman had to sell? He stated as recently as March, someone offered him $1 billion for 50% interest, which sounds Shady because if you anyone purchase a minority or limited voting/controlling power in an entity, you expect a discount, and that's how the rich cats discount their net worth on their tax returns. Rockets still worth more than $2 billion as of March?

    The Knicks were worth $4.6 billion at end of Feb, but now you can buy the Knicks for $3 billion....except Dolan would still have controlling power
     
  10. hikanoo49

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    all tillman needs to do is to find one sucker out there

    still lots of billionaires who want a team
     
  11. Alimoe84

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    JJ Redick has been cleaning UP on one and two year deals.
     
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  12. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    Forgot about JJ. Making BANK for just one skill set!
     
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    he was really only crazy overpaid the one year with $23 million in Philly.

    he’s not been cheap since but his one skill is still very valuable and he’s not a complete liability elsewhere. He’s never missed the playoffs in his career and has mostly been a starter.

    our boy chandler parsons takes the cake. He’s collected $126 million over his career... a good $20+ million more than JJ. He’s made $14 plus each of the last six years and $22+ each of the last 4. In those 4 years he’s played 100 games... total. Almost $100 million for 100 games. It’s worse on a minute basis cause he never averaged over 20 mpg in that timeframe. If you total his minutes over the last 4 years and assume he played just 30 mpg, it’s be only 64 games. At $22+ you’d want more like 36 mpg ... he played the equivalent of 53 games at 36 mpg over the last 4 years. JJ by comparison almost matched that minute total in this shortened season and way surpassed it each of the last 5 seasons.

    I wonder if you ignore production - parsons wasn’t that good in the minutes he did play anyway - where parsons salary per minute played over the last 4 years would rank? I think it’s something like $50k a minute. Which would be the equivalent of having paid Harden $143 million last year alone.
     
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    Hahaha yeah he is an underrated slasher.
     
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    I wish the man no ill will personally but I love our Rockets and the tax line is more important to him than a championship. I hope he sells the team and fully recovers financially from the sell.
     
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    Damn I wish I read this before my last reply
     
  17. Xerobull

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    A note on unemployment vs the PPP. Granted, Fertita may have not known about the details of the PPP when he told everyone to get unemployment, BUT, the PPP is a joke and unemployment pays MORE than if your company would have gotten the PPP.

     
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    That’s a complete lie and I know this cuz he was open to making a trade that didn’t go through.

    he’s logical, he wants to save on the tax if he can but if an opportunity comes up to pull a big name he will

    if he was that cheap we wouldn’t of got Westbrook
     
  19. YOLO

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    huh? what does that even mean? wb put the team salary wise in exact same position only an extra year longer for an excuse for the people that don't know any better to duck the tax. he's so cheap he had to ask wb for installment payments where he gets less now and eventually get the difference much later down the road. if cp3 were still here the repeater angle would no longer be an issue bc he has 1 less year on his deal.

    you seriously are way behind on things concerning tilman. most of the stuff you have posted here is ridiculous and coming from a place that is nothing more than random thoughts that are inaccurate
     
  20. mockster

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    lol you have no legitimate info to back any of your claims. he would go over the tax of it meant making the team better.

    and we could’ve traded CP3 for somebody else and got a bunch of scrub contracts.

    tillman has always been open to going over the tax if it made sense and there is no evidence to suggest he wouldn’t

    plus our current team is set up very well For what was available and what we had so it’s even more odd people make these claims with no facts

    that’s funny because I’ve posted accurate info before news outlet even reported on it and have the post to prove it?, df.

    you on the other hand know nothing and base everything on speculation

    sorry I won’t hate on someone because it’s the trend with no facts.
     
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