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Just got outbid on Ebay

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by tolne57, Feb 3, 2005.

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  1. DonnyMost

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    unless they're willing to pay more than you.
     
  2. Cohen

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    If you start regular bidding, some folks get into a bidding war for the sake of the 'win'. Pirce goes crazy. I've seen it and even had to control myself a few times. Now I just use esnipe. Only way to go.
     
  3. codell

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    not necessarily

    the bid may be set at $10.00, and im in the lead .....if i set my proxy bid at say $15.00 and someone tried to snipe me by entering $10.01, then I still win because the system will automatically bump my bid above that $10.01, but not necessarily to my max proxy bid of $15.00

    it will come down to who is quicker, the system at ebay or the sniper ....ill put my money on the ebay system

    ive bought hundereds of items over ebay and I cant remember ever losing an item i really wanted by using the proxy system .....i used to lose a ton by being sniped though ...i learned my lesson
     
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    whenever I really want something, I don't leave it up to a website to snipe for me.

    i do it myself, until I win.
     
  5. Cohen

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    Well, technically, the snipe will have to be 10.50, then your proxy will respond.

    But what he's saying if his snipe is 15.50, you won't have a decent chance to consider whether you want to bid more and you lose.
     
  6. Davidoff

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    This is what I'm talking about, the simplest way is sometimes the best way... just bid the amount you really wouldnt mind paying and let e-bay do the rest...
     
  7. codell

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    or unless you run out of time

    proxy bids are unknown, and thus, sniping is not a guarantee you will win unless you know what the high bidder's limit is

    so even if you come in and snipe @ $10.01 with 2 secs left to beat my bid of $10.00, then Ill still win as long as my proxy bid was set higher than $10.01
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    for cheap people like me, this is never the route you take.

    you sit there with 1 minute left to go inputting bids until you finally crack them.

    you never, ever bid on an item before the final moments, otherwise you'll be driving the cost up prematurely.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    hasn't failed me yet.

    but then again, i never really bid on something unless i am really and truly going to get it no matter what. i don't just passively bid on things..
     
  10. codell

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    Well, as a veteran e-bay bidder, ill never set my proxy bid higher than what I could get the same item for on another auction via "buy it now"

    the thing is, the sniper has no idea if $10.50 would beat my proxy bid or if $15.50 would beat my proxy bid

    regardless, if my proxy bid is $15.00 when I know I could also get a "buy it now" at the same price, then I don't feel about about being sniped .....in reality, I feel like laughing because the sniper just over-payed for the item
     
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    Donny,

    How is proxy bidding driving up the price prematurely?

    Proxy bidding only bids enough to win the auction no matter what.
     
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    that greatness is from Weird Al Yankovic.




    and is proxy bidding just the same as having a max bid? i mean, you set your max bid, and if someone outbids your current bid it raises it 50 cents (or whateve the minimum raise is) over the sniper's bid. and it does it until they reach your max bid and then if they go over your max bid your SOL. sniping makes sure you get it if the other person isn't right there, too or doesn't have a max bid over you.
     
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    any bid that is placed before the moment the auction ends pretty much drives up the cost.

    the longer and an item sits and is bid on, the higher the price goes, and goes, and goes..
     
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    it sets the market

    how does a sniper know what to bid if the market hasn't even been set?

    if the item is still at $1.00, then how does the sniper know what it will take to win?

    If no one has bid on the item, and its at $1.00, my bid still shows up at $1.00 even if my proxy is set at $25.00 ....thats hardly driving up the price
     
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    What if there are 2 of you using proxys?
     
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    whoever has the higher proxy bid will win or be in the lead
     
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    Not sure what you're trying to say. Why do you think you have the upper hand? Just in the circumstance where there's a comparable item with a 'buy it now' price, and you're willing to set your proxy bid up to that amount?

    Do all of the things you buy on ebay have another one listed, and with a 'buy it now' option still available?
     
  18. Cohen

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    It only takes 2 proxy bidders to drive the price up before the auction.

    I've bought over 60 similar items (Japanese Maple trees). When folks are bidding and proxy bidding, the price will almost always be higher than when the price stays low and gets resolved by snipers. I've seen the same tree go for $10 by snipers and $40 or more when bidders where getting competitive. It also seem to attract more attention.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Well, slightly below that amount, just for the purpose of saving some money. I actually do alot of research on stuff before I bid and actually will track a few bids on the exact item to see where they tend to end up at. Alot of stuff I bid on I see ending up over the "buy it now" price and since I have to be careful with funds for my businesses, I don't want to over-pay for something on e-bay.

    And yes, usually everything I bid on (usually electronics) is available on another auction and/or "but it now".
     

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