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Just got back from seeing 300 and...

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  1. RiceDaddy7

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    Masterbator,

    Stop pushing me to donate. I wasn't here for the most part of 3 and a half years, only posted in spurts ( now and during the summer ). How do you know how much money I have? I could just be some kid working at Mcdonald's making rent. God, stop. This is the second time already you've bugged me. I don't want to sound like a jerk or anything, but I don't like being pushed to donate. Let's drop the subject. I'll donate if I can. I got plenty of blood to donate. Would that help?
     
  2. Master Baiter

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  3. Wangdoodle

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    Thanks for the review!

    Since I disagreed with your views on Frank Miller and Sin City, I'll probably also disagree with your opinion of 300 and I'll probably like it.

    (note: disagree isn't really the correct word to use here. It's not that I disagree with you. It's just that have a different preference than you. Is there a word for that?)

    oh.. and Xerxes was not female.
     
  4. RiceDaddy7

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    No, I meant Xerxes is Prince as in the Artist Formerly Known as Prince. In the movie he was really gay looking. Surely when Tim Hardaway saw 300 he got all homophobic and flinched at Xerxes. In truth, the real Xerxes was a pretty firm and tough...can't imagine he'd wear lipstick and prance around.

    But yeah............my art history teacher is a fool.

    ( By the way, when will they finally make a movie about the Watchmen? The greatest comic book of all time doesn't get a movie and Ghost Rider does? Ffft. )
     
  5. DaDakota

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    I meant to write " he ", not " her ".

    Well, I was a bit harsh on Miller in my previous comment. I like Miller as an artist; his style is really fresh. I just feel that his writing has been on cruise control for the longest time. Maybe he's put himself on high expectations after the fantastic Dark Knight Returns, but everything he's made since then has been a major disappointment. I understand he's going for the Kill Bill-type writing style, but even those kind of movies ( including Kill Bill ) have character development. You always have to have character development and a proper pacing no matter how much action and violence and sex are in there.
     
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    Cool! Another historical novel... I love to read them. Haven't seen the flick yet, but am dyin' to. This really happened, and the Spartans and Persians of the period were both very, very strange people. Seen as strange by many of the era, as well, not just from our vantage point. Really looking forward to this one. :cool:
     
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    I didn't even make it through 1/3 of Sin City, so I can't imagine I'd have any interest in 300. Judging by all the online and TV ads along with reports (and now reviews confirming it) that there is virtually no story, my guess is more hype than great movie.
     
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    sin city looked like crap. this movie was pretty awesome.
     
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    That's really weak that the major aspect pushing the movie is visuals and hardly even talk about it. Who is pushing this as hostoricaly accurate? Did you not see the mythical creatures? Yea i really bet they thought there were mutated beasts who dictated Spartan law.

    Way to pick the least hyped part of a movie and rip it to shreds.
     
  11. FlyerFanatic

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    Tried to go to a viewing earlier tonight, was sold out...have to catch a matinee sunday
     
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    Anyone that takes this movie as some sort of an accurate account of an historical event is an idiot who should know better. Moreover, I don't think the movie was pushed or marketed as an accurate portrayal of the real thing...I mean, the Persians are Aryans for God's sake!
     
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    The guy who directed 300 is supposed to make The Watchmen, though I'm not too thrilled about that. I think Snyder is capable, but a movie like 300 is what I would expect from him, it seems he wants to also make The Watchmen panel for panel. There is no way you can make that whole damn thing into a movie. He's even planning on filming the Black Freighter comic within the comic. You could easily cut that whole thing out and not even blink. He's also planning on having it be set at the same time the book was, in the mid 80's.

    The movie was close to being made just about a year or two ago with Paul Greengrass directing and a script by David Hayter(aka Solid Snake) that even Alan Moore actually said was good, but when the CEO at the time left the studio, the new guy came in killed the project because of the budget and lack of belief in the film.

    Oh, almost forgot. In the R rated trailer for 300, Snyder included a little easter egg at the 1:52 mark.
    Rorshach
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    oh man, i crapped my pants


    crappy dialog.
    excellent fight scenes.
    hot women.
    great movie.



    and the preview to grindhouse looked awesome.


    +5 bonus points for me in my history class!
     
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    I agree with you completely. Watchmen is a comic book icon. It's a landmark. It's a legend. It deserves a director that is more substance than style.

    300 (the comic) was VERY visual. It deserved a director that could convey all that vast emotion in action. I haven't seen the flick yet, but based on the reviews and comments, it looks like a slam dunk.

    Thanks for the easter egg, Oski. I had no idea it was there. I wouldn't complain if Zach directed Watchmen, I would just not be sure about the content until it hit.
     
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    It's not just the lack of historical accuracy that I'm commenting about. It's the lack of story; the lack of tension.

    For comparison's sake, let's compare this to Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon is not historically accurate. We all know people don't fight on top of tree branches. Okay. But you know what? There was a story. There were characters that were three-dimensional. You took sides during a fight between two main characters.

    You don't just put a mindless bad guy with a bunch of mindless bad henchmen, and have an equally mindless good guy and a bunch of hookers and call that a movie. Maybe some people like that, but I don't. That **** bores me. After the first minute, every other minutes is going to be just like that first minute. Challenge us, the viewer. Leave us in some kind of suspense. Make it where I don't go " hmm, in this scene the bad guy gets his head violently chopped off and legs blown apart. I wonder what happens in the next scene? Oh, the same thing. Only with more hookers ".

    Also, I was ranting about Miller's cruise control writing style in general.
     
  17. RiceDaddy7

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    The Watchmen deserves a proven director. After what happened with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, it proves that no matter how good Moore can write, it can be butchered by the wrong hands. I do not blame the director of 300 for making 300 bad...he was merely adapting badly written material. 300 the movie was a lot like 300 the comic book, so I don't blame the director.

    But if he's doing the Watchmen, he better understand completely why the Watchmen was so good.

    For the record, I really liked V for Vendetta. It did Moore justice.
     
  18. JunkyardDwg

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    I was hoping 300 would reach the level of Gladiator, if not surpass it. Those expectations weren't met, as it just wasn't quite as epic, as deep or emotional as Ridley Scott's film. But, I wasn't dissapointed in the least. 300 was a visual feast and a stylish epic in its own right. If it had a little more story to it to flesh out the characters I probably would have vested more in them and the film itself. Still loved it though.
     
  19. JunkyardDwg

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    You cannot compare Crouching Tiger to 300 as the two are way far apart in style and tone and, most importantly, purpose. 300 was never billed as a character or plot driven film. It wasn't meant to be. It's visually driven and it excels at that. Some films are made to entertain; they don't all have to challenge the mind. Hell some of the best movies out there are ones that are pure popcorn fun.
     
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    Just got back from seeing it

    I think i grew more manly just from seeing it....

    Didn't like the way they ended the movie, but overall this movie is da ****
     

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