There comes a point where you have to wonder how many people have you on ignore. I'm not saying he does, but I'm just sayin'...
i have been reading this BBS for a while now but have not posted yet............... I cannot resist myself. I have a lot of respect for certain posters such as DaDakota, Dr of Dunk and others because their reads are generally good. I enjoy reading their posts. But pgabiel.......... there is a time when we must just cut our losses. The more you argue, the more you look like an idiot. You lost this argument a long time ago. You are annoying.
The good thing about me is I never argue. But people still hate me. I wonder how many people have me on their ignore list. Mo Taylor...well I did say he is similar to Chris Webber. But of course...he is not as good. But they have a TAD BIT of similar playing styles...just a little. Mo Taylor has been pretty much unstoppable until they finally double team him. I think he has saved us a bunch of times. He is my favorite gummy bear. Scabpicker. His defense is not THAT bad. He looks pretty focused. He gets more fouls on offense than defense. And who cares if he doesn't get rebounds. Cato can get them...or Yao can get them. Or Posey can get them. Or Steve can get them. Individual stats don't matter. Overall team statistics is more important...and it seems like we outrebound most teams in the NBA. And anyways....Mo Taylor is awesome. God...have you seen him recently? It's weird though...he is either on fire and makes all of his shots. Or he like misses one and then misses all the rest. But it seems like he has been making BOTH free throws nowadays. The only two that he takes per game. That's a good thing. Griffin...would be even worse off the bench. Griffin gets a lot of easy buckets when he's playing cuz everyone is focused on Yao...and he just sneaks in and gets a lot of tip ins and nice and happy dunks. If he was on the bench....teams would ignore Cato and Griffin!!! I still don't get why Cato even attempts to post up...he never makes a shot. Mo Taylor will definitely have to continue playing well for us to make the playoffs. Griffin will have to contribute as well.
I think someone really made a good point about Yao getting more rebounds when MoT is in the game. Mo Taylor takes his man outside or otherwise attracts his attention. Griffin, as much as I like him, does not do this, allowing his man to double or sag on Yao. I think MoT should be the starter because he helps our offense flow better. He doesn't have problems guarding or scoring on any of the PFs, and he can score in the low block and from midrange. This creates spacing, which is one of the most important things in the Rocket's offense. When we have good spacing, we are much more effective in scoring. I agree that we should have Eddie gain confidence and do what he can to outwork the 2nd string PFs. We can't afford to have 2 non-scorers on our starting 5.
Although you're not on my ignore list, I could understand why people are so pissed off with you Dude, you have the highest PPD (Post Per Day). What the hell happens with your Post Stats? I thought it should be like 100,000 posts by now. There must be some interventions by DoD.
Pgabriel: As far as the lack of scoring punch from the 2nd unit, that can be solved by not doing mass sub-ins... ie don't sub in the whole 2nd unit for the whole 1st unit. We must always have 2 of our big time scorers on the floor at the same time, and it can be done with a few modificiations to the substitution patterns.
I'd have to agree with this lineup. Mobley would be a great 6th man. He's get most of PT at the 2 spot though.
Ever since the Rocks picked up MoT ive been dissapointed b/c of his lack of hustle and inside game. Im startin to come around though.....I like MoT more now than I ever did. Startin him in place of Griffin would probably be a good idea. We might FINALLY get off to a good start and not have to crawl our way back into games. I think Mo earned a spot in our starting rotation from his great play and Griff earned a spot out of it. I really wish the Rocks would let Moses Malone tutor Yao and esp. Eddie in the art of the post game. That way our future frontcourt would be even more formidable. Who betta to learn from than from the best?
Good post. If MoT started, we would have to change the substitution pattern to make sure one of our inside scorers(MoT or Yao) and one of our outside scorers(Cat or Steve) are on the floor at all times.
But stats do show assists, and shooting percentage and rebounding. For all you idiots who think I don't watch the game. I didn't know what Mo Taylor's stats were when this thread started. I really didn't give a damn, but I made an assertion, and someone countered so all we have to settle the argument is stats. For all the argument judges who say I'm wrong, tell me what stats someone has looked up that say I'm wrong. That's all I need to see and I will concede the loss, but what ever you guys think, the stats are in favor of my interpretation of Mo's play. Mo Taylor averaged 1.6 assists in his best year. That doesn't prove he's a good passer and just because you guys believe he is doesn't prove anything either.
It was 45 games, another stat you Mo Taylor fans got wrong, but that's the first legitimate counter to my argument. It's a whole lot better then the mythical BBall IQ score.
Mo Taylor needs to start and Eddie Griffin needs to come off the bench. I am happy how Eddie played tonight but most games I cringe at least a few times watching Eddie on offense. I'd like to agree with the 99.9% of the posters on the thread saying Mo Taylor is a pretty good passer.
Mo T is not the answer for any team at power forward. He can score, but contedning teams need phyiscal play and strong rebounding from the 4 position. Mo Taylor does not fit that mold. He's more of a 3 than a 4. I think the Rockets need to get a REAL power forward and move Taylor to the 3 if they want to win some games.
Uhhh...WELL TOO BAD. Who do you consider as a REAL power forward? I bet most of them are not available. Too bad. We are stuck with Mo Taylor. I know many teams would be delighted to have Mo Taylor...not his contract though. He can rebound if you want him too...he has been trying to get more. It's kinda tough to get rebounds when KELVIN CATO is like a huge baby monster and grabbing every single missed balland fighting with his own teammates for the rebound. I love Cato and his emotional attitude. Mo Taylor is a good passer. Yao is also a good passer... MOBLEY is a good passer......but sometimes is blind. He can't even see a wide open Yao right next to the basket. Or maybe he just doesn't want to pass it. Anyways........Mobley has been playing well. So has Mo Taylor. We need both Mo Taylor and Eddie Griffin to play well to win games. Eddie has to start off good. He usually scores all his points in the first quarter...
I think we need a better player at the four than what we currently have. EG is not even close to being big enuf or strong enuf. Mo T has his head in the clouds and only comes to play when he bounces back to earth once every two weeks or so. We need an Enforcer type PF that can clean the glass and watch yao's back. We have too many one on one players. No Balance on this team.
Here's the stat that you want to see. This season, EG averages 1.05 assists per game, averaging 25.34 minutes per game. MoT averages .94 assists per game, averaging 20.24 minutes per game. EG averages 1.989 assists per 48 minutes, vs. MoT's 2.229 assists per 48 minutes. If you want to use this stat to see that MoT is a better passing option than EG, you can. Personally, I don't see why you think the only thing that makes you a good passer is your number of assists. It doesn't take into consideration more than half of a guy like Mo's passes. It doesn't take into consideration things like your teammates missing shots, dropping passes. It doesn't take turnovers into consideration. The funny thing is, you remove your stats goggles only when it helps your argument. You said that comparing assists of guards, centers, etc. with power forwards didn't tell the tale. I agree. So, you see, stats really don't say everything. And it's not only in times where it helps your side of the argument to not read only the stats. There are lots of basketball situations that statisticians don't calculate (read DD's earlier post he's been waiting for you to comment on).
1. Magic 6. K. J. 2. Stockton 7. Norm Nixon 3. Big O 8. Tim Hardaway 4. Kidd 9. Stephon Marbury 5. Isiah 10. Mark Jackson Do you guys know what this list represents, its the list of the top 10 assist (avg per game) leaders in history. I think we would all agree, with the exception of Marbury that these are or were all pretty good to great to the best point guards in NBA history. Riddle me this batmen, If we all believe that at least the first 5 of these guys may have been the best passers in the history of the game, the next 5 are good to above average point guards, and the assists statistics prove it, why can't we take the same statistic for a player, compare that player with other similar players, and use the same statistic to prove someone's not a good passer?
Wait, so now you're going back to comparing stats for guards with stats for power forwards? I thought you already determined we can't do things like compare Mobley's assist stats with MoT's. Here's some reading you may find interesting. It's a stats guy pointing out some of the things he doesn't like about stats. You might want to pay particular notice to what he says about assists in particular. http://www.allsports.com/nba/stats/Features/030197_bhss_statsee.htm
