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Just because Mo is back?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by qpx, Mar 6, 2003.

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  1. Dani

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    Mo Taylor is a power forward that should play more than 35 minutes on any team. He is a player with an All-star talent. And actually he´s a better player than EG, sure. If Mo T plays this minutes he can do 19-20p, 7-8r, 3a. And the most important thing is he undestand this game, thing that Griffin must learn.
    Mo T can shoot from 5-6 metres(in Spain)mmmm...18-20 foots?
    And now Rudy don´t have excuses to let play him. He´s not fat like last year, and he have confidence. If he have played since the start of the season we maybe could be up from Putah, Phx.

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    PAu gasol, raul lopez y yo seré el próximo en 3 años.
     
  2. michecon

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    Nobody is questioning your numbers, they are simply questioning the interpretation of the numbers.

    Yao Ming has ample of instances where his passes bounced off his teammates hands also. But more often than not, it's because his teammate are not being ready for the pass.

    Your Cato comment (fact, if you must), is a good counter to your own argument if you think about it.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    How is that a counter to my argument, when I'm arguing with stats and everyone else is arguing about what the saw on TV?
     
  4. Moe

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    Yep, you've got it. Everybody's wrong and you're right.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You see how he ignores my entire post about how stats are not the whole story?

    Pgabrial, address my issues..here they are again, in case you missed them.


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    what stat shows a players sliding over to help on a defensive assignment?

    What stat shows the player passing out of a double team to another player who in turn passes it to a wide open player for a field goal?

    What stat shows knowing when to call a timeout versus running up the court and jumping in the air and tossing an errant pass to a trailing teamate and watching them brick a 3 pointer at the buzzer?

    What stat shows a good outlet pass?

    What stat shows when to double team a man on defense on a pick and roll? (something that Mo is good at by the way.)


    Stats don't tell the whole story....admit it Pgabrial.

    DD
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I just asked a question, I'm interested to know how that countered my argument, if you explain it to me, maybe I will agree, I really don't understand what he meant. I'm not being sarcastic.
     
  7. Sane

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    So many people annoy me with their inability to change their opinion, but I had never before had an urge, like now, to put them on this "ignore list" that we can use.

    pgabriel,

    What's your point exactly? Are you saying EG is a better passer than Mo? Is EG's rebounding VITAL to this good-rebounding team?
     
  8. New Jack

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    I'll try and explain for michecon. Not sure if this is what he meant though.

    Cato makes a good pass, someone catches and scores, Cato gets the assist.

    Taylor makes a good pass, someone fumbles it and robs Taylor of the assist.

    Do you see how the stat can be deceiving?
     
  9. Apollo Creed

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    I really don't think anyone is on pgabriel's side here. And with good reason, of course.
     
  10. Toast

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    Cato hits almost 52% of his shots. Francis hits around 43%. I think we need to get Cato more open looks from 18 feet out. :rolleyes:

    Stop and pop, Cato, stop and pop!!!
     
  11. pgabriel

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    For the last freakin time, I said Mo Taylor shouldn't start because A)he's not a good rebounder, B) he's more of a one on one player who requires the ball to be effective, like Francis and Mobley, so that would be too many of those type of players on the court. C) The second team would have no low scoring punch removing him from the lineup. I mentioned as an after thought he wasn't that good of a passer, people wanted to argue that point, I'm entertaining that argument.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    That would be relevant, except for the fact you play 82 games a season and statistics have a way evening out over a long period.
     
  13. Toast

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    Mobley, noted for being a "black hole" on the offensive end, averages almost twice as many assists as Yao. Obviously, according to FACT, Mobley is twice as good a passer as Yao is.
     
  14. Toast

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    Yeah, come to think of it, if Mobley's averaging more assists per game than Yao, I think the media should really be complaining that Yao doesn't get the ball to the guards, not the other way around.
     
  15. pgabriel

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    Mobley's also a guard, who touches the ball more, he even brings the ball up the court sometimes, I'm not bringing Yao or Mobley into this argument. But if you want to argue this point of course guards, forwards, and centers all have different standards to be judged by. I used other starting powerforwards, who led their team in scoring, to compare to Mo Taylor's year with the Clippers when he led them in scoring to compare his statistics with similar players. I never mentioned Yao, Mobley, just other powerforwards around the league. For benefit of the doubt, I even used his best statistical year.
     
  16. Apollo Creed

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    Why don't you just watch a damn game rather than spout out statistics?
     
  17. Sane

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    Well, since we are a pretty good rebounding team, and obviously, judging by recent games, Yao dramatically increses his rebounding #s when MoT is in the line-up, I don't see MoT's lack of rebounding as a problem.

    Mo does need the ball to be effective. You're right. But if I had the choice of going to Mo or Cat, I'd have to say Mo. Mo shoots a brilliant percentage, while Cat is slumping and struggling trying to fit in with the system.

    My solution is to start Mo, and move Cat to the bench, where he can absolutely ABUSE 2nd unit players all the time and play a great 6th man role.

    Yao
    MoT
    Rice
    Posey
    Francis

    Cato/Griff/Mobley bench
     
  18. A-Train

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    Come on NJRocket, you hate Taylor more than anybody....pgabriel is being dog-piled here!!

    Griffin's potential worth is the only thing keeping him around, and ever subpar game he has diminishes that a little...
     
  19. pgabriel

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    I do watch the game, thanks for your constructive comments.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    You going to keep ducking this post HMMMMM?????

    Oh Gabby, gabby, can you answer these please?

    DD
     

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