Pgabrial, You are really reaching...how much time did Mo have the ball in his hands versus Francis? Come on dude, you are really out on planet X now. Francis has the ball EVERY SINGLE posession and he only got 6 assists? Yep, that is a star PG for sure. DD
Dude, so true. It's important that guys fill the role that's expected of the position. Power forwards gotta rebound and play D. And point guards gotta run the offense, distribute the ball, and get everybody involved...
Assists averages Duncan 3.9 Garnett 5.7 Wallace 2.3 Webber 5.4 Nowitski 2.8 Brand 2.5 Malone 4.9 Stodamire .9 Only one player, a rookie, on this list averages less than Mo Taylor's best year of 1.6 assist per game, not even ball hogging Brand, and shoot first Nowitski.
Every one of those players a starter and the focus of that teams offense...now can you say the same about Mo? Let's see, is he a starter....no, is he the focus of the offense? No.... Nice try Gabrial, the clanging sound you hear is your ball bouncing hard off the backboard....and out of bounds. DD
Griff is a horrible passer. He telegraphs everything he does on o when he has the ball. Mo is a decent passer. Doesn't always make the right decisions, but at least he isn't tentative with it like Griff. Do you think you actually have a point with that list pga? All those guys have the offense run through them. Mo is just a role player. Btw, I'm fine with Mo coming off the bench as long as he avgs 25-30mpg and is finishing the game. Griff can think of himself as the starter if he wants, just like Shandy used to.
Uh, I said his best season when he was a STARTER with the CLIPPERS, NICE TRY YOURSELF. Now its just ONE ASSIST per game. Clang Clang, Brick by DaDakota
PGabriel, Eddie is a very good shot blocker but that's it. He gets pushed around by just about every Western Conference PF. He does get a few more rebs than Mo Taylor but compared to the offense that Mo Taylor, it's no comparison. Neither player is a great passer but no one on this team passes that much anyways. When you get down to 5 minutes in the 4th quarter, we need people who can put the ball in the hole. Having a Yao and Mo Taylor combo in the low post is a dual threat preventing the other defender from helping out. This gives us very favorable one on one matchups - whether it's Yao or Mo Taylor. When Eddie's in there, his guy just leaves him and lets Eddie stand alone at the 3 point line. During crunch time, Mo Taylor, Yao, Steve and Cat are 4 scoring threats - and that's what you need.
still makes no sense. So Mo isn't Brand, Duncan, KG, Sheed ... no ****. Your stats don't prove that Mo is a bad passer. Your assertions are bunk.
Yes, stats don't mean anything on this board, I have realized that now, because everytime I prove my point with stats, I get super intelligent responses like "that's bunk" in 5 year old voice Thanks for the intelligent debate,
EG is not a terrible passer. You have to pass to be a passer. The Dream was lousy passing out of double teams, his only on court flaw. Yao hits guys in the shoulder (twice v Detroit) because the receivers don't know how to look for the ball. Even Mo occasionally sends a good pass but too often gets the ball late in the clock. Perhaps the Rox are not (coached to be) a passing fancy?
No because to evaluate a shooter, you go to shooting percentages. Is that so hard for you to understand. And if you read the rest of the thread, I never said his offense wasn't good.
You're starting to get the message of that post. So if you don't evaluate a shooter only by the number of shots he takes, class, how might that relate to a player's passing skills and his number of assists?
(And on a side note, you don't evaluate a shooter by his shooting percentages. Cato may average 50%+ of his shots, and although that's a good percentage, a majority of his shots are dunks. It doesn't mean he's a good shooter. Rather, it speaks to his shot selection.)
Start EG, but give MoTaylor more minutes... especially in the fourth when Defense tightens up. EG becomes an liability on the offensive side because he can't hit **** and MoTaylor has shown that he's got arsenal of post moves. Take Posey out too, his shooting sucks.
That's stupid, one has nothing to do with the other, a shot is only successful if it goes in, yes I understand that all successful passes lead to assists, but there is nothing to evaluate passes that aren't successful. With a shot its hit or miss, with a pass, there are many other variables. And for the people who said Mo Taylor wasn't the focal point of the offense that year, he led his team in points, just like the guys on that other list, but I know, stats don't matter. What's even more ridiculous is the other guys average more points and assists.
There's just no hope for you. Quit sh!itting out stats and just watch the damn game! Mo is easily the second best passer on this team (that's not saying too much with this team, but still). He has the knack for finding people open guys if you watch him carefully. Mo also plays tougher and better D against the better PF's in the west than griff. Remember the last game against the suns? Griff was getting out manned by Amare but when Mo come in, he roughed him up defensively and virtually shut his confidence out. Rudy finally woke up and put Mo and Yao on the same floor together the last game. Now he can put in that play that was so effective earlier in the season with KT and Yao. I just love the play that have two post up guys, one posting up on the strong and one posting up on the weak side and you have 3 swing passers passing it around to either post up guy depending on the defense. I haven't seen that play since KT left but I remembered it was so effective. Rudy's got to add in and mix up some of his plays. I'm so tired of seeing 3-4 ineffective plays over and over again.
I guess nobody here remembers the beautiful, no look, OVER THE BACK/SHOULDER pass that Mo Tay gave to a wide open Shandon Anderson underneath the basket a few yrs. ago... 1 play doesn't prove everything, but the man can pass. When he came here, his passing ability was one of the things that Rudy/Cd really liked. Pgabriel... you really are reaching on some of your stuff man.
