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Just admit it... you were wrong about Adelman...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by txppratt, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. poprocks

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    Yeah and I forgot we had washed up Knick Mark Jackson too.
     
  2. v3.0

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    Rudy T threw himself under the bus.

    All those drafts like Eddie Griffin and passing up Rashard Lewis, he was behind all those. CD and Rudy T deserves equal blame, actually Rudy T deserved more blame cause he couldn't coach those players he drafted into what he envisioned.

    JVG's player personnel decisions were Ward, Mark Jackson, Oakley, Wesley, Jon Barry, and the biggest was TMac cause he realized he wasn't going to win with Francis.

    And yeah, if Adelman didn't give Brooks and Landry and Scola their chance, we sure as hell wouldn't have the success we are having right now. Adelman personally gave the thumbs up on drafting Brooks as he saw Brooks alot living in the northwest. He gave MJ and Francis their chance to show what they got and they by and large sucked. He personally gave the thumbs up on getting Bobby Jackson as he knows him quite well from their Kings days.
     
  3. EGYPT

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    Rod Strickland
    Jake Tsakalidis
    Mutombo
    Juon Howard

    all are one dimentional players that came in at the end of their careers.
     
  4. thiuronium

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    Vspan is NOT 'really the typical 'rookie' like these other youngsters', either!
     
  5. thiuronium

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    And what could be worse is JVG will never play Scola simply because his wife doesn't like Scola!!
     
  6. across110thstreet

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    when the Rockets make it out of the first round, I will admit I was wrong about Adelman... but he has the team rolling and ready to make me eat crow
     
  7. EGYPT

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    I think JVG wouldn't have played Scola becasue he would have been jealous from his hair ;)
     
  8. thiuronium

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    Last game, it was Novak. AB did score 2 points.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    the year before = lottery
     
  10. Bigmarky

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    agreee with all the posters who said:

    Our winning D comes from JVG.
    JVG didn't have a team this loaded
    Our offense really isn't that diff from JVG

    Playoffs are a real test, regular season records don't mean as much anymore
     
  11. Apollo Creed

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    Getting this team to win some games without McGrady has made me a believer.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    I do think that the new GM has a TON to do with the personel on the team. But I also don't believe for one second that the head coach has no say in which players to draft or to trade for.....

    Rick Adelman stepping back and letting Yao become the team's leader was the best thing that he could do....

    And now their is a clear hierarchy on the floor....first round??? PFFFFTTTT...we need to set our standards higher....can this team get out of the Western Conference is what we should be asking now.

    DD
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    Novak STARTED under JVG till it was obvious he had 1 skill. (ok he only started 1 game but whatever) The d league helped him bigtime.

    Head under JVG
    05-06 28 mpg 36% from 3
    06-07 27 mpg 44% from 3
    now under A
    07-08 18 mpg 35% from 3

    he is getting less chance under adelman thaN HE DID AS ROOKIE AND SOPHMORE UNDER jvg.
    landry didn;t even see the floor for over 30 games.
     
  14. blackbird

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    It is ridiculous, and hope you can do better than this. Why on earth did JVG start a rookie in his first NBA game? Is it the so-called developing rookie? WTF. :mad:

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  15. Angkor Wat

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    HAHA, I'm sure Scola could spare a few locks for JVG.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    adelman had to learn A LOT about our players before he knew what to take out from his offense and stay with what works.

    in the first 20 games or so, he stayed with yao at the high post more often, and triggering the offense from there at times, which didn't work. yao suffered as did the team.

    then he went back to JVG for a while b/c a lot of the players didn't pick up the offense, heavily relying on tracy to do a lot of stuff and he suffered along with the team.

    now we're just running just a few more basic sets of his offense, but still instilling a heavy dose of the pick and roll. the MAJOR difference from last yr is that we're much more athletic, have more depth, and just better role players overall.

    as u saw yesterday, they started out guarding tmac 1-on-1. he went to work. then the 3rd quarter, we just killed them w/ yao as they had to guard him 1-on-1 b/c everybody else was rolling. then tmac shut the door.

    the emergence of landry, scola, alston, battier (and hopefully bobby jackson) is truly the reason for why we are much better than last yr. yao hasn't been that much different. tmac has actually been more inconsistent with injuries.

    but if the role players play like this and yao-tmac have more dominant games like this TOGETHER, this team can go as far as they want to go.

    as long as they don't get tired of winning like tmac says, then we're heading towards a very prosperous ending.
     
  17. txppratt

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    my point exactly.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    When Oakley was signed - Chris Kaman was playing in his rookie season for the Clippers in 2003, after having been their first round draft pick

    Linus Kleiza was an 18 year old Freshman for the Missouri Tigers. He was not even eligible for the next NBA draft, much less to be signed as a free agent.

    So - there you have it. A player under contract and a college freshman. Please tell me in what alternate universe that they are available to sign a 10-day contract as street free agents with the Houston Rockets in December 2003.
     
  19. Angkor Wat

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    Please, V-Span is more of a rookie than any of ours that we have. He was less NBA ready than Gerald Green. V-Gina shouldn't even be spoken is the same breath of a Scola, Landry or Brooks.

    You guys got to remember that JVG's team were not in a situation where he HAD to change up the lineup and try different players. They were never in the situation where this team was earlier in the year. Rick had the make adjustments because we were struggling. His best move was making Yao play the high post much less than before.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Well let's just say you obviously haven't checked in a long time if you think either of those guys is having a great season.
     

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