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Just admit it... you were wrong about Adelman...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by txppratt, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. poprocks

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    Rigggghhhhtttt!! Cause Carol Dawson would have brought in the aging Oakley even if JVG weren't here.
     
  2. v3.0

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    If you think JVG had no say so on player personnel decisions then you severely mistaken. He worked hand in hand with CD, prolly wasn't as involved in with the smaller deals though.

    JVG did say "It's not like I woke up one day and found out TMac became a Rocket."
     
  3. HillBoy

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    These people appear to have no F'ng clue as to what a General Manager does or is supposed to be doing. There was a serious talent evaluation problem with this team that went back well BEFORE JVG showed up and yet these are people who keep trying to blame him for the incompetence of others that were here for years before he got here. And these were the same people who were screaming for Adelman to be fired after only 12 games so I wouldn't really put too much stock into what they have to say especially if they can't figure out the difference between a Head Coach and a General Manager.
     
  4. poprocks

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    It's why we had Charlie Ward, Oakley and a blatent attempt to get Latrell Spreewell by the Rockets. All washed up Knicks. Nope JVG didn't have his footpring on any Rockets decisions at all.
     
  5. blackbird

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    Everyone and his grand-grand-ma know there is a difference between a Head Coach and a General Manger. Everyone and his grand-grand-ma know they are co-workers too. It is so funny that JVG lovers still make excuses. :D

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    I demanded a change (of coach). And I was so happy that JVG got fired.

    Fortunately I'm patient enough for Coach A to figure out.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    You're not answering my question.

    Oakley signed a couple of 10-days in Decmember and was waived by April.

    Please tell me what "promising young players" the rockets were going to sign, but for Oakley's couple of 10-days.

    Oakley was a veteran signed in midseason off the scrap heap, and was waived in short order. He gave the Rockets nothing, he cost the Rockets nothing.

    If you think that is mortgaging the future..you're belying your true motivation.
     
  8. Easy

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    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for the GM change this year. But look at the TYPE of players we got under JVG compared to what we got under Rudy T, you tell me the coach has nothing to do with shaping the roster.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Bullard, Collier, Langhi, Padgett, Novak....
     
  10. poprocks

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    You mean like that offensive stud Flyin Ryan Bowen?
     
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    Read my words carefully. I said "guys LIKE Oakley." I am using Oakley as a symbol for players like Ward, Mark Jackson, etc. If you think my other points are questionable, state it.

    Just answer the big question: Do you deny that the rosters we had in the past 4 seasons were shaped by JVG?
     
  12. HillBoy

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    Get real! Coaches ask for players all of the time. That's what they do. But the head coach is not the one responsible for the overall talent evaluation and acquistion. That responsibility lies with the GM. And when you have a GM who trades away draft picks, has no f'ng clue how to find talented young players, gives out bad contracts to aging or mediocre players, makes trades without a comprehensive strategy for the future, then what you wind up with is the Houston Rockets over the last 13 years.

    I look at it this way: They threw Rudy T under the bus and hired JVG. Now, if they were competent, they would have realized right then and there that he needed certain types of players to make his systems work and that those players were not on the roster he inherited. Now, they had to be onboard with his systems - with his way of coaching right? After all, they were the ones who HIRED him. And yet, who was responsible for finding and getting him the kind of players he needed? Or was that part of JVG's job description as well? And just who was on this so-called "committee" that made those personnel decisions? But yet, when it all didn't work out, you choose to assign the blame to JVG. So, if I were to use your reasoning, the Rockets success (or failure) this season will have more to do with Adleman than with Morey's performance as GM.
     
  13. ReD_1

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    Aaron Brooks? High motion offense?
    I think that giving a chance to play is way better with Rick Adelman. He gave a chance to Landry, Brooks, Novak and Head and they all showed up in one way at certain time. Rockets have long W strike which is almost impossible under JVG.

    One thing is for sure, we're waiting to see the playoffs.

    Thus far, I'd say R.A. > JVG
     
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    Yea whats with the constant ball movement, and consistant shot making, and defense? Adelman what do you think this is......championship basketball or somethin :D
     
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    Last time I checked, Azubiak (spelling?) is great in GW, and Boki is great in NJ.
    Oh he still owes Yao $20.
     
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    After a painful season of watching Yao being neutralized by swarming defense, JVG said in the summer of 2006 that we needed PFs who could shoot from the outside. There you are, Steve Novak. Yet, he quickly junked that idea and went back to the reliable Chuck Hayes.
     
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    adelman is definitlely growing on me to say the least. However, how we finish the season will be key. we need to to playing good ball going into the playoffs.
     
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    you mean to tell me that CD was the one behind bringing in all the New York guys :rolleyes:
     
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    Brent Barry
     
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    Kleiza and Kaman come to mind.
     

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