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Just admit it already....we NEED a HEALTHY McGrady

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JSUB11, May 9, 2009.

  1. Scarface281

    Scarface281 Member

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    You never know. The trade still might have happened. DM still might have wanted us to get younger at the PG position. It's possible.
     
  2. Untraceable

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    So landry gets traded or soomething?
     
  3. trueroxfan

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    yup
    we can win with this squad, if they could just get it together and use their brains...there is absolutely no reason why yao ming should not touch the ball every posession he is in. STOP WAITING TILL 12 SECONDS TO START THE DAMN PLAY AND MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE AN EASIER TIME GETTING IT TO HIM, SWING THE FRIGGIN BALL, STOP PLAYING ONE ON ONE, STOP JACKING UP SHOTS, STOP DRIVING AND TURNING IT OVER, POST UP YAO MING DAMN IT
     
  4. BetterThanEver

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    Knee-jerk thread.

    If T-Mac comes back again, it's another first round exit with T-Mac dominating the ball again. We have seen this before multiple times. Whoppeeee!

    I can't wait to get rid of him.
     
  5. Always Waiting

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    I have agreed with this statement all along. tmac brings a penetrator and scorer to the rockets. we would be a whole lot better with his scoring ability, especially what he does in the playoffs.
     
  6. Artesticles

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    Haha... let the myth continue that T-Mac single-handedly lost us games in the playoffs. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

    I'm looking forward to seeing Lowry and T-Mac on the court at the same time. I think they will complement each other very well.
     
  7. Rileydog

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    This assumes many things, many things that are highly unlikely:

    1. Tmac is willing to do the necessary rehab for him to get in shape and strengthen his knee.
    - This is a guy that has been naturally blessed with skills and athleticism. He has not had to work at his game his whole life.
    - If he does not, he will try to play on it, and the minute he does poorly or feels it is not 100%, we wind up replaying this year. Play 1 game, rest another.
    - Given this guy's track record, I think it's less than 1 in 3 chance he does the requisite work.

    2. Tmac is willing to accept a lesser role.
    - Every statement he has ever made reflects his self perception of being the best player, and his belief that none of the past failings are his fault. It was never because he was soft, or failed to defend. It was because he had an average team at best (or whatever the hell his words were verbatim).
    - I can see him taking a lesser role on a team with guys he views as legitimate stars. Shaq. Duncan. Kobe. Lebron. Wade.
    - Tmac will always see himself as better than every single player on this team, and that will preclude him from being willing to accept a lesser role.

    3. Daryl Morey cannot find a better use for the $20MM salary spot than to gamble on Tmac's willingness to do the work to get his knee iin shape, and willness to accept a lesser role.

    I cannot fathom that Morey would take this gamble.
     
  8. RHostetler82

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    We need a healthy mcgrady-like player, this is very true. It doesn't mean we can't matchup against the best teams consistently, but to get past not only the 1st round consistently but the 2nd round as well in order to have a chance to be championship competitors, then yes we do need that extra star player.

    That being said, so much was self-inflicted last night. It was pitiful. Poor shooting (much more so than our 42 % would indicate) and just ridiculously bad passing/ball handling leading to 17 turnovers. 17 turnovers. Don't these guys practice not choking on routine passes and dribbles?
     
  9. tycoonchip

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    Unless we are getting, lebron, wade, or kobe then forget trading him. I really don't know how much you guys expect from tmac during the previous years. He carried a pretty scrappy team to the playoffs last season on a bad leg and possibly back. Yes I am saying SCRAPPY. What we need is a physical trainer to get his ass back into shape. Last night we really saw what is needed to make Yao a lethal weapon and just how difficult or frustrating it can be trying to get him to that point. With our inability to space the floor, I saw the opposing team collapse and smother the paint basically making yao useless. What I also saw was our inability to pass the ball to Yao. The same moves that Tmac would do to drive in and get the ball to Yao where he is effective were just not done. Right now Kobe is just having a field day because he really isn't working on the defensive end.
     
  10. ThaBlackKnight

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    I don't care how "gifted" you are...you don't get as good as Tmac without working hard. Watch his days in Toronto...he was just Rodney Carney back then. He had very minimal skill. He was a great defender, but offensively, he had nothing. The guy couldn't get PT to save his life.

    By his 3rd year, he became a consistent scorer, a better shooter, and a better passer. Then the next year, he's averaging 26 ppg, and doesn't average less than 24 until 2008. He still put up 15 ppg on one leg.

    That just doesn't happen without hard work. Jordan, Bird, Magic, Dream, Shaq, all those guys worked at their games. That is the biggest misconception about Tmac...he is gifted, but he worked hard to make it look easy.
     
  11. t_mac1

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    really? his own toronto coach said he wouldn't last 3 years in this league. so he has to work a "little bit" wouldn't you think? nobody is that naturally good. NOBODY.
     
  12. Super Von

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    What we need is Tracy away from Toyota Center.

    Dude is a jinx.
     
  13. rocketsmetalspd

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    TMac would not help this team. He was not ready this season and will not be ready for next season. I am glad to see him go next season.
     
  14. Yao4REAL

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    There is always hate and love about Tmac's game and personality:

    First, him jacking up shot after shot is not the championship caliber efficiency offense you want to run. Because when he does that....Yao and Scola is not in the position to get 2nd chance shots. And also because people still think he's a superstar, so he gets to take a majority of the shots at a VERY inconsistent rate is nothing but hurt the team. His poor defensive skills make the team overall defense weak!! You ever wonder why the Rockets can't guard nobody when he's starting?? Now shift your mind to the current roster with Ron & Shane starting?? Do you see the same weak defensive team?? No!! Tmac is weak and don't have the mental toughness and footwork to play great D.

    Second, don't you wish you have Tmac in there when team fronted Yao and not able to get him the ball? Yes i sure wish we have Tmac. BUT, Ron Artest posting up and shooting at a high quality rate is not as bad as Tmac's ability to generate his shot and shoot at an inconsistent rate. I seen the lineup of Tmac Shane Scola Yao and it ain't tough enough...defense is bad and the team's offense is not efficient. WE seen this lineup before and it ain't good enough. We need Artest and Shane starting..they're more efficient offensively and defensively. Unless Tmac is a PG then it perfectly fine to have him in the lineup. In fact, i will go as far as saying, this is EXACTLY the lineup that we want with TMac as a PG. Because now we can play great DEFENSE with Shane and Ron and offensively if they fronted Yao, we have Tmac!! But is coach willing to let Tmac play PG through the entire season??
     
  15. rocketsmetalspd

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    Why does he need to be at the bench when he does not even pick his team to beat the Lakers. As soon as he shows up on the bench bad things happen. He is the bad luck that the team needs to get rid off. Please do not let him in the TC tomorrow. I believe if he does not show up the team will win.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    what about games 3 & 4 v. portland? he was there on the damn bench too.
     
  17. WeMissDekeMan

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    Pretty much, we don't need T-Mac and we don't need his fans waiting to say I told you so when the Lakers-Rockets series is over either.

    I prefer somebody else, Joe Johnson, Manu, Pretty much anybody who can create for himself and others in the 2010 free agency class.
     
  18. GATER

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    A healthy Grady is a very good thing. Adds to his trade value.
     
  19. rocketsmetalspd

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    I know how much TMac means to his true fans but he does mean much to most Rockets fans now a days. He was great in the beginning but his Drama has worn his welcome in H-Town in the last couple of years. I wish him the best where ever he ends up playing next season.
     
  20. rocketsmetalspd

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    Dude you can enjoy watching TMac play next year and hopefully not in H-Town.
     

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