Jury recommends 90-year sentence for teen in Spring pipe attack

Yet pedophiles and rapists can get life for their actions. You're forgetting that this is aggravated assault, on a degree borderline to murder, on top of a sex crime.

The bleach makes it harder to argue that it wasn't accidental.

 

everyone keeps mentioning the bleach as if it was used to destroy the evidence... did they admit to this, or could it have been used in an attempt to make him white?

 

big words coming from someone that when confronted, can't say anything.

 

Sons changed his stories a few times there. ONE eyewitness claimed they yelled "white power". Clearly you are taking testimony as fact.

And the whole idea of a hate crime is legally questionable. So a murder is worse if it's motivated by hate versus anything else?

 

dude, they obviously were just horsing around.

 

"testified" man....he probably had like 3 surgeries and counts each little area stiched as a seperate surgery. I don't think you can even go under 30 times without serious affects. People have a way of exaggerating ya know.

 

Are you? Does even a surgeon know if a plastic pipe can cause enough injuries to require 30 surgeries?

I mean, people who get shot don't require that many. People who suffer massive internal injuries in car wreaks don't require 30 surgeries.

Don't you find that number a bit high? He could have said 3000 and you would still buy it.

 

How do you know if he yelled white power? You trust that guy who changed his story - a guy who was deal drugs and who was hosting....a guy who didn't lift a finger to help! He probably was laughing the whole time...and then got smart and cooperated with the cops to save his own skin....

Fact is, they were all hanging out together. That's what happens when you don't know who you are going to drink and do drugs with. Messed up things happens. The "victim" clearly should take some responsibility.

How come no one is decrying the "victim" for taking all those drugs and getting bent out. And what if he did try to kiss a 12 year old girl? Maybe that's what they were reacting too...maybe that's why Sons didn't do anything...until afterwards when they all realized they really did hurt the guy and the police were going to get involved.

Then Sons says, "hey - it was a hate-crime, I;m half-mexican and there fore I'm not to blame!"

 

would you take a pipe being kicked up your ass or spend 90 years in prision???

Think really hard about that before you answer.

I bet most of yall would opt for the pipe. Thus you can't argue that 90 years is fair.

 

The only sensible post on this thread....

 

Look when you binge on vodka, mar1juana, cocaine, and Xanax you are pretty much out of your mind. They all were. Even Sons is liable here - clearly he cut a deal.

Why would white supremists go to the home of a half-mexican to party with him and another hispanic, and then attack the hispanic?

My question is this, did the hispanic kid get knocked out - or did he pass out? Interesting huh?

There's a big hole in this case (no pun intended!).

I think the punishment should be 2-3 monhs in prision, plus substantial financial payment to the victim - at least 5,000 dollars. Maybe even 10K.

 

this was a more serious injury than a shot. there was major internal damage in this incident. there are many injuries that require up to 30 surgeries. My dad is a surgeon and so are many other people in my family. They have performed multiple surgeries on people that were not even injured or unhealthy to this extent. Do you know how hard it would be to make this kid have a functional intestine and rectum again

 

Who do you know that horses around by sticking poles up other guys butts? It was obviosly not a "prank", it was ASSULT. So what if these guys were high or whatever. If a drunk driver kills someone, they could go to jail for Vehicular man slaughter. Its the same thing in this case. No matter what they were on, they still ruined this kids life forever and they have to take responsibility for it

 

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I fail to find the reason why you're so eager to defend the suspects' position other than the possibility that you think others are being too "quick to judge".

 

No I'm not but you're the one contradicting it so you obviously somehow have more medical knowledge that what has been presented.

 

Because it never happened. It's all a conspiracy by the government.

 

Right, but what if the car was full of drunk people also on coke and pot, and anti-anxiety pills...and everyone was a mess and they crashed.

Doesn't the people who get in the car with the drunk driver and intoxicate themselve bear responsibility?

 

Again the problem though is that they were under the influence isn't excusing factor which you are trying to argue. It makes it worse. For instance someone who is drunk while driving kills someone. That will get a far worse sentence than killing someone while driving sober. The I was really drunk defense makes things worse. I know someone who got raped in college I also happened to know the rapist also as both lived in my dorm. The rapist was an alcohalic and defense was that he was drunk and didn't even remember the rape. He ended up getting a longer sentence than if he had been sober as it was deemed his alchohalism made him a more likely threat to re-offend.

 

NewYorker;

Do you believe that women who dress sexilly and go to nightclubs and dance seductively deserve to be raped?

 

Hey, this guy wasn't dressed sexy and wasn't at a night club dancing seductively.

He was drinking and doing drugs and hanging out with seedy characters. And hitting on 12 year old girls.

These skin heads stepped in, but clearly weren't in their right frame of mind....i mean, to be fair, we'd have to put the jury under the kind of alcohol and drugs these guys were under and then ask them to re-evaluate what happened.

That might lead to a more proper verdict - do you agree?