1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

JuanValdez, What Happened To The Grid?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Feb 15, 2021.

  1. HP3

    HP3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2018
    Messages:
    22,873
    Likes Received:
    32,142
    Explain why that student was wrong in what he said?
     
  2. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    26,776
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    "Nuclear Power plants are shutting down b/c the cooling ponds are freezing & don't have heaters, nor do the pipes that move the water have insulation tape."

    What actually happened:

    On Monday, Feb. 15, 2021, at 0537, an automatic reactor trip occurred at South Texas Project in Unit 1. The trip resulted from a loss of feedwater attributed to a cold weather-related failure of a pressure sensing lines to the feedwater pumps, causing a false signal, which in turn, caused the feedwater pump to trip. This event occurred in the secondary side of the plant (non-nuclear part of the unit). The reactor trip was a result of the feedwater pump trips. The primary side of the plant (nuclear side) is safe and secured.



    He's just making **** up.
     
  3. HP3

    HP3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2018
    Messages:
    22,873
    Likes Received:
    32,142
    And where did you get this source?
     
  4. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    26,776
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    It's a quote from Vicki Rowland, the lead for Internal Communications at the STP Nuclear Operating Company. Not as great of a source as a "power engineering student" with 1K followers on twitter.


    https://atomicinsights.com/south-texas-project-unit-1-tripped-at-0537-on-feb-15-2021/


    Was the sensor lost due to the cold? Yeah probably but this fool is talking about insulation tape. The nuke is already back online and is ramping slowly. Will be back on the grid soon.

    https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/co...cle_7126430a-709a-11eb-a770-cb3d1f5f9219.html
     
    HP3 likes this.
  5. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    No I am not biased, you are despicable because you want to shut down a whole thread because you say this guy said some false stuff and because he is a "student".

    You want to shut down this thread because its shining a non flattering light on your side and the sins of deregulation a tentpole of Republicans.

    You also have issues with it showing Republicans flat out lying. Why did that particular tweet cause you so much issue and nothing else?
     
  6. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    26,776
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    You are not biased? Are you serious bro?

    That particular tweet was laughable and as a nuclear advocate I wanted to correct the record. We have about 20 people on here advocating wind but one guy standing up for nukes triggers you.

    730 MW lol
    [​IMG]
     
  7. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Those things are not mutually exclusive.


    This disproves nothing the sensor trip occurred because of freezing water which can be attributed to not winterizing pipes.

    "About 5:30 a.m. Monday, workers at the South Texas Nuclear Project shutdown the Unit 1 reactor because of freezing water, said Matagorda County Judge Nate McDonald."

    On Monday, Feb. 15, 2021, at 0537, an automatic reactor trip occurred at South Texas Project in Unit 1. The trip resulted from a loss of feedwater attributed to a cold weather-related failure of a pressure sensing lines to the feedwater pumps, causing a false signal, which in turn, caused the feedwater pump to trip.
     
  8. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    You were not standing up for nuclear and nobody was talking about Nuclear anyway.

    And the reason people are talking about Wind is because of the laughably false things Republicans are saying about Wind, yet you have no issue with those lies.

    And no what that guy said is not laughable at least not from what you have posted.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    26,776
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    If you are arguing he was correct, please provide his source. Preferably that includes insulation tape and someone in authority.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    26,776
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    The thread was posted talking about nuclear. Literally the guy we are talking about, was talking about nuclear.

    crap I forgot you are insane. Post his source please.
     
  11. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    I don't know if he correct or not and it seems you don't either so it's not on me to provide his source, it's on you to prove he is not correct since you are the one making claims that this thread should be shut down.
     
  12. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    The thread was posted talking about issues to the infrastructure and you are the one that needs to prove he was wrong, which you have not.

    What usually are the causes of water to freeze in a system?

    How do you usually curtail that water freezing issue?
     
  13. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    26,776
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    I agree.

    Nuclear is the most reliable. Wind seems to be the least reliable.
     
  14. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    What does this have to do with anything.

    Talk about being insane.

    How does it seem that wind is the least reliable because Texas did not winterize their wind turbines?

    Who the hell cares which is most reliable they all break down if you don't winterize them and have no regulation to make sure those things are done.
     
  15. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    26,776
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    me and a few million other people
     
  16. geeimsobored

    geeimsobored Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Messages:
    8,878
    Likes Received:
    3,171
    Wind is fine if you weatherproof. The Dakotas and Western Minnesota have tons of gigantic wind farms (because its flat, windy prairie). There are towns here in Western Minnesota that are almost exclusively powered by wind now.

    Nuclear is reliable precisely because of all the required redundancies and planning. That sort of thing can be applied to any form of power generation and transmission.
     
    jiggyfly likes this.
  17. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    26,776
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    I disagree. Nuke is reliable because all the fuel you need for years is not being delivered during process, it is onsite already.
     
  18. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    Still waiting on you to prove he was making **** up?

    Stop trying to deflect.
     
  19. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,853
    What does fuel being on site do if the plant is shut down?

    Are you doing a mad libs now?
     
  20. HP3

    HP3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2018
    Messages:
    22,873
    Likes Received:
    32,142
    Okay but why would wind be the least reliable? Its not. Those Wind turbines were not properly weatherized at all and wind turbines do way better in much colder places so what gives? Even in the article you gave me those Wind turbines still over performed or were in line with ERCOT's expectation. I dont see how this an indictment on wind power?
     
    ThatBoyNick likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now