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JPost: IAEA Confirms Iran months away from having nuke

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Dec 7, 2005.

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  1. bigtexxx

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    Gotta love the armchair know-it-all liberal. What is your proposed solution, SamFisher, esq?
     
  2. mc mark

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    Alas, I'm afraid those days are gone.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Sam nice article from Clarke. Well...maybe nice isn't the right word...

    "sigh"
     
  4. tigermission1

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    Funny, the CIA itself leaked its findings to the media that Iran was at least 10 years from developing the bomb. So how do we reconcile both reports/findings?

    Seriously, the USA and Europe MUST get behind a nukes-free Middle East, including Israel and Iran and everyone else. If Iran gets it, then the Saudis are guaranteed to get their own within no more than a couple of years after Iran acquires them, and that would launch a nuclear arms race in the region, something the whole world could not afford.
     
  5. blazer_ben

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    I hate the Current Theocracy in iran, but who the fu k does isreal think it is?.. they attack iran, they will be very, very sorry. iran has upgraded it's long range missel arsenal very effeciently. if the isrealies dont want to have one of there cities blown sky high, they better think twice.
     
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    I opened a thread a while back. chalabi the darling of the bush administration, is a iranian agent. he was iranian proxy, feeding false information into the bush admin.the current goverment of iraq, is and iranian hand picked goverment.
     
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  8. bigtexxx

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    Israel would pummel Iran. No competition
     
  9. geeimsobored

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    Well Israel probably does have more firepower and tech, but Iran has demonstrated that it has substantially upgraded its arsenal and could pack a hefty punch. It would be a closer fight than you make it out to be.
     
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    if iran had us taxpayers paying for its defense, then it would be the other way around buddy.
     
  11. blazer_ben

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    Lets not forget when the shah had the us backing, iran had the 4th biggest army on the planet. now the us has turned it's attention to isreal. if the us stopped supplying f-16's, 15's and F-18's you think isreal would stand a real chance. lets not forget the current f-16's in the hands of the isrealie goverment, was Paid and bought by the shah of iran. after the Revolution in iran, the us goverment refused to hand them over to iran. so in reality, the f-16's that isreal operates, are iranian owned.
     
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    Seriously, we don't want ANY escalation in that region, Iran is not Iraq, only an idiot thinks so, and remember that Iran won't be fighting by itself, all its agents will be involved (Hezbollah and others), and likely most Arab countries will be forced to join in since they will be caught in the middle (that would include Syria), and that would include the US as well as many forces inside Iraq (the Shi'as will definitely take a part in such a conflict, and it won't be to defend Israel).

    Let's hope no one is that stupid, but the Israelis are nothing if not risk-takers (especially since they'll probably expect the US to shield them from any Iranian response).

    Not a good scenario, don't want to see it coming to fruition...
     
  13. glynch

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    Hey, I bet the neocons/ Sharonists can come up with some exiles , who are wannabee leaders of Iran, that can tell Bob Woodward or at least Bill O'Reilly that Iran will have unmanned drones that can deliver nukes to American cities within 6 months.

    Alternatively they can have some tortured guys say whatever is necessary.

    Sounds so silly, but that is what the Bush folks did with the Iraq caper.
     
  14. mleahy999

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    You sound disappointed that we didn't give advanced fighters to some clowshoe. Not to mention a little hostage situation that followed.
     
  15. F.D. Khan

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    Yes Isreal could defeat Iran, but only because its using US warplanes, nuclear weapons and such. The fact is that the world, especially the muslim world, knows that its the US supporting, both financially and militarily, Israel and thats why we're getting lumped into their own silly problems, many of them self-created.

    I just don't like policies that further alienate peoples as an Israeli attack will no doubt accomplish. Iran is scared that there will be a 'regime-change' and are scurrying to build defenses, yet if the country is left alone they know that any use of the weapons will result in a total destruction of that country.

    Eventually every country is going to have nukes, and maybe the threat of nuclear assult will limit conflicts worldwide as its done with USA/Russia and India/Pakistan.
     
  16. mc mark

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    Whats a clowshoe?
     
  17. mleahy999

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    I meant clownshoe. That's the ultimate diss in the hood. I've heard it in Latin as well, "fossor crur!"
     
  18. Ubiquitin

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    Enlighten me. Why did the situation last as long as it did? Also, how many died?
     
  19. mc mark

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    Okay this guy is not helping his cause... :(

    Iran's president says move Israel

    Iran's conservative president has said that Israel should be moved to Europe.

    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that if Germany and Austria felt responsible for the Jewish Holocaust, they should give up land to make room for Israel.

    "You oppressed them, so give a part of Europe to the Zionist regime so they can establish any government they want," he said on a visit to Mecca.

    The president's remarks were quickly condemned by Israel and the US.


    "This is not the first time, unfortunately, that the Iranian president has expressed the most outrageous ideas concerning Jews and Israel," Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Mark Regev said.
    "He is not just Israel's problem. He is a worry for the entire international community," he added.

    White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the Iranian leader's comments "further underscore our concerns about the regime".

    "And it's all the more reason why it's so important that the regime not have the ability to develop nuclear weapons," he said.

    Mr Ahmadinejad's stance drew condemnation from French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who were meeting in Berlin.

    "The comments by the Iranian president are totally unacceptable," said Ms Merkel.

    'Palestinians paying the price'

    In October, Mr Ahmadinejad caused an outcry by calling for Israel to "be wiped off the map".

    In his latest remarks, he accused European governments of backing Israel because of the Holocaust.

    "Is it not true that European countries insist that they committed a Jewish genocide? They say that Hitler burned millions of Jews in furnaces... and exiled them," Mr Ahmadinejad said at a news conference in the Saudi Arabian holy city.

    "Then because the Jews have been oppressed during World War II, therefore they [the Europeans] have to support the occupying regime of Jerusalem. We do not accept this," he said.

    "The question is, where do those who rule in Palestine as occupiers come from? Where were they born? Where did their fathers live? They have no roots in Palestine but they have taken the fate of Palestine in their hands," Mr Ahmadinejad added.

    "Isn't the right to national self-determination one of the principles of the United Nations charter? Why do they deprive Palestinians of this right?"

    The president's comments come as Iran is mired in controversy over its nuclear programme, which it says is solely for the provision of fuel, but which the US says is aimed at producing nuclear weapons.

    An International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report in September said questions about Iran's nuclear programme remained unanswered despite an intensive investigation.


    Story from BBC NEWS:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/4510922.stm
     
  20. mleahy999

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    1) I'm guessing gun to head and not being released.
    2) Hostage takers didn't need to show up at the office on Monday.
    3) Jack Bauer was only a teenager
    4) Negotiators asking for the impossible. No way would the US turn in the Shah and appologize.

    I'm sure the hostages had a grand old time. Thanks for the hospitality Iran. Will visit again.
     

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