You guys do realize this was a thread that was necro bumped, after Jordan had been playing well in December of last year under a much better coach, right? It is pretty much irrelvent to the team as constructed now, and what he is being asked to do. DD
Jordan Hill has passed his "sell by" date. Last night was the most useless minutes that guy has ever played. I suppose they may be showcasing him, but he is a lost cause now IMO.
The Rockets have no identity, they are not showcasing talent they are not building a winner, they are simply going in circles....with a Yes Man coach. DD
What does the coach have to do with anything? Jordan Hill played very poorly throughout most of last year. The problem isn't that his performance has regressed. Its that his performance hasn't improved.
Durv, I can't believe you are asking such a question, what does the coach and the system have to do with performance? Are you really asking that? Honestly? Because the answer is a whole lot !!!!! Some players fit in a lot better under a coach/system than they do in others - everyone has a certain style or type of game and the role that is asked of them within that system is crucial to their success. It is the same reason Kmart is not as effective in this system, it is not designed around his strengths. I really am flumoxed that you would ask that - I know you get the numbers side, but the system is vital, crucial to how someone performs. You are joking, right? DD
Jordan Hill has played for 3 coahes so far, D'Antoni, Adelman and McHale, and has not been effective in any of them. The system might be vital and crucial for some players, but there is no evidence that Jordan Hill is that player. He hasn't found an NBA system in which he fits yet. There might be one out there, but there isn't any fact supporting it now.
The fact is that he was decent as a backup PF last year in Adelmans system. Doesn't mean he is good - and this thread is completely off the contextual rails it was intended, it was meant to celebrate him playing well over a year ago......nothing more.... And he was, he is clearly not now. DD
Jordan Hill is not Kevin Martin. Explain to me how Adelman's system is this great match for Jordan Hill's skill-set. Your argument makes zero sense just from that stand-point. Moreover, as I said, Hill did not play well last year. He had a few good games now and then, but the majority of the time he was really bad. I'm seeing the exact same pattern this year. As I said, its not an issue of regression. He's just not improving. And its not like he really improved from the beginning to the end of last year either.
Durv, The very fact that Hill played a different position last year in a different system matters a lot. I agree he is not improving, that is not the point we are talking about here, I am saying he would be servicable in a different role..... DD
First of all, he played the majority of his minutes last year as a C next to Scola and Patterson. He was arguable a C half the time when playing with Chuck too. Also, when Jordan was playing PF, that was because the Rockets had a smart big on the floor who was capable of handling the ball and initiating the offense in the high post in Chuck Hayes and Brad Miller. It would be a disaster playing Jordan Hill next to Sam Dalembert, from an offensive stand-point. And it would be a disaster to the 10th degree playing Hill and Thabeet together, if that's what you're thinking.
Honestly at least the Rockets didn't draft the guy. Geesh, what a downer that would have been. He just happened to come along for the ride in the McGrady / Landry deal that netted the Rockets Kevin Martin.... There was good upside, but 3 years in the league and he is still so inconsistent. At some point you figure, he just won't cut the mustard to be a starter. But he is a good player that can be a rotation guy (at best) or an end of the bench guy (a body needed in practice). But the projection of him being a reliable starter are pretty much nixed...
Kevin McHale's directions are simple, REBOUND... Sometimes Jordan Hill does, sometimes he doesn't. It has nothing to do with the coach, and everything to do with Jordan Hill... He does NOT play hard every night, unlike Scola, Lowry and Parsons... If he wants to be a player in this league, he needs to play harder than everyone, EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. He does not have the talent to NOT play hard.
Jordan Hill is a terrible defender, he cant rebound and he needs to get stronger and a lil bit more physical. THEN he will be a good player.
