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Jordan in to further damn negotiations

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Der Rabbi, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. Der Rabbi

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    Love how Jordan wants a hard cap system that well may have prevented him from ever having the chance to buy an NBA team once he retired.
     
  2. sinobball

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    Jordan just didn't want to be outdone by his former chief rival Isiah Thomas, who was credited with the folding of the CBA.
     
  3. coachbadlee

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    I would hate for Jordan to be involved with the canceling of a season. Lets just hope he doesn't further complicate things.
     
  4. AirBud#10

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    Go Jordan, hard cap ftw!
     
  5. Air Langhi

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    “If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team”
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I love the GOAT. Brilliant.


    $&@# or get off the pot.
     
  7. aaaa

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    Jordan don't give a F, loyalty only to himself. Selfish and cutthroat. But this shouldn't be surprising to most knowledgeable basketball fans, or even Jordan fans.
     
  8. redhotrox

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    Lol 37%. What a cheapo.
     
  9. Yung-T

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    MJ destroyin his legacy with that, goin the Isiah route.
     
  10. SPF35

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    Ha MJ only maid his market Value towards the end of his career. He can buy an NBA team bc of the business deals and endorsements he has outside the league, his player salary is a small portion of his income.

    that said, the owners aren't against paying the stars(like the Mjs type leaders) those guys bring in the revenue, its the other contracts they are weary about that don't bring in direct revenue.
     
  11. Dei

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    Where's that guy who said Jordan would've been the best mediator? LOL.
     
  12. cod

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    MJ is the reason why average NBA players can get an astronomical pay day. He single handedly made the league highly marketable on a global scale. They all owe him a % of their paycheck.
     
  13. meh

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    Jordan wouldn't have been able to afford an NBA even if he saved every penny of his paycheck over his playing days. Jordan made more money off the court than he ever did on the court. You could say he and the NBA made a great partnership. The NBA marketed him immensely and gathered a huge fanbase to truly make basketball shine in both US and the world. While Jordan was able to get ridiculous jack from selling shoes and other stuff by simply being Micheal Jordan.

    Even if the players get only 37% of the BRI in a hard cap, a prime Micheal Jordan today would still rake in insane money that would make his NBA paycheck look like a pittance.
     
  14. BetterThanEver

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    Michael Jordan only made $2-4 million/yr except for 2 seasons. Even if you take into account inflation, the player's salaries have far faster than BRI. After baskertball, he capitalized on his endorsements and businesses.

    While today's players make way more than Jordan, even adjusted for inflation. They aren't even as good as Jordan in his peak. He didn't to form a Miami super team to get rings.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html

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    guys this is just the equivalent of him having 'flu' and dropping 800 points on you.

    He is a fierce competitor guyz.

    I love it when he was like this on the court everyone licking his you know what.
    Now he has some chip on his shoulder and trying to prove he is the man again.. ''Look at me, I'm Jordan Ima light you up boy" the need to be so hardcore might cost him friends, but then again he is pandering to his 'team'.. and that's the fat cats that jordan is never going to be. as rich as jordan is or business savy he make think he is, he doesn't realize that he is not in the same club as the big boys. Never will be. Sorry jordan stop grandstanding and stfu
     
  17. Clips/Roxfan

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    MJ sells out players with hard-line stance

    Jason Whitlock

    Michael Jeffrey Jordan finally found a cause he can get behind off the court: being an obstacle for any black kid dreaming of matching or exceeding Jordan’s wealth.

    Sellout.

    And I don’t throw that word around liberally. But there’s no better description for Jordan now that he has reportedly decided to be the hard-line frontman for NBA ownership’s desire to rob NBA players of their fair share of the revenue the league generates.

    Sellout.

    Now that NBA superstars have decided to fully engage in the lockout negotiations and threaten union decertification, David Stern and ownership have decided to unleash their token minority owner from the house to play hardball. According to The New York Times, Michael Jeffrey Jordan, the greatest player of all time, is the owner most determined to bury the union financially. Jordan allegedly wants current players to take a 10- to 20-point basketball-related-income pay cut.

    Sellout.

    This is the ultimate betrayal. A league filled mostly with African-American young men who grew up wanting to be like Mike is finally getting to see just who Michael Jordan is. He’s a cheap, stingy, mean-spirited, cut-throat, greedy, uncaring, disloyal slave to his own bottom line.

    Nike’s “Air Jordan” marketing strategy was based on getting black inner-city kids to worship Jordan and his shoes. Allen Iverson, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Paul Pierce, the Fab Five, etc., made Michael Jordan a billionaire. The NBA Players Association fought like crazy so the Bulls could make $30 million balloon payments to Jordan in each of his final two seasons in Chicago.

    And now Jordan, as the owner of the Charlotte Bobcats, wants to be the face of ownership greed and vindictiveness.

    Sellout.

    With Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison on his resume, Jordan is arguably the most incompetent NBA executive working today. He wants the current players to pay for his incompetence.

    This is ego and arrogance run amok. Jordan believes he’s untouchable. He clearly has no respect for current NBA players. If Billy Hunter and Derek Fisher have any leadership ability, they should use Jordan’s betrayal as a rallying point. They should attack the “Air Jordan” brand. Why would any young basketball player wear the apparel of the man leading the charge to rip billions of dollars from the pockets of professional basketball players over the next 10 years?

    Why would basketball players and black people continue to shower adoration on a man who has never once stood up for anything that doesn’t positively impact his financial bottom line, particularly when it’s a man who has made billions off the love of inner-city kids?

    Why love someone who doesn’t remotely love you back?

    “This generation of black men needed Michael Jordan,” an all-time great athlete told me Friday night.

    Jordan should be the guy counseling LeBron James, teaching him how to perfect his game, his image and his business portfolio. But Jordan is not a giver. He’s a bloodthirsty competitor. And he’s a hater. He’s middle-aged and bitter that the current players — even the mediocre ones — can earn way more than he did in all but two years of his career.

    That’s the joy of creating wealth, freedom and opportunity. The people behind you get to enjoy it more than you. Unlike Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson and countless other all-time greats, Jordan is actually celebrated, remembered and revered publicly and privately by current players for creating the NBA prosperity the players now enjoy.

    There’s no reason for Jordan to be drunk on haterade. These kids deserve the money, even if some of them blow a percentage of it making it rain at strip clubs. I’m not defending their financial irresponsibility, but we do need a little context. When we tell the stories about the athletes who are broke three or four years after retirement, we often leave out the details about the countless friends and family members the athletes helped while blowing their money. They “blow” money on school clothes, private schools, medical bills and college tuitions, too.

    I fully comprehend the shortcomings of modern-day pro athletes, but I do not understand the outright hatred of them. They don’t deserve it.

    Save the venom for a hypocrite sellout who can easily betray the very people who made him a billionaire global icon.

    Michael Jordan should be the “basketball voice” in the owners’ meetings, the owner most concerned with the health and image of the on-court product. Jordan should be the guy bringing both sides together to do the right thing for the game.

    He should pay a price for his betrayal. There should be a player-led boycott of his Nike brand. The current players should do everything in their power to make the Air Jordan brand unfashionable in the ’hood and the ’burbs.

    Don’t support a man who stood for nothing until it was time to do the bidding of billionaire owners

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/...tern-in-NBA-lockout-a-selfish-betrayal-110411
     
  18. Clips/Roxfan

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    David Steele

    Of course, Michael Jordan is a hypocrite.

    You know it, and surely as you knew that he wouldn’t get whistled for pushing off Bryon Russell, Jordan knows it, too.

    Jordan knows exactly what he said to Abe Pollin a few months after Game 6 of the 1998 Finals, during the last NBA lockout, back when he was a player in the forefront of the union’s negotiations. “If you can’t make a profit, you should sell your team,” he reportedly shouted at the then-74-year-old who had owned the Bullets/Wizards franchise for as long as Jordan had been alive.

    He also knows how he battled the Bulls’ Jerry Reinsdorf on his last two contracts, in those final two title seasons of 1997 and ’98, to get what he was entitled to, whether Reinsdorf thought paying a player $30 million a year would ruin him or not.

    And now that Jordan, as principal owner of the Charlotte Bobcats, is reportedly leading a faction of hardline owners pressing the league to accept no compromise, to not budge further than the debated 50-50 split, to take his franchise’s supposed setbacks out of the players’ hides in the exact way he denied owners during his previous life … no way, he hasn’t forgotten that.

    If Jordan hasn’t forgotten who beat him out of the last varsity spot when he was in 10th grade—and if he didn’t go to the lengths he did to stick it in that unsuspecting player’s face 30 years later at his Hall of Fame induction—then he hasn’t missed how complete this change of direction has been.

    Know what else he knows? That Michael Jordan made the NBA what it is today, what it still is 13 years after that shot over Russell, even what it is eight years after he walked away from the Wizards, Pollin and his playing career for good.

    And Jordan knows that he, himself, is going to help bring that whole creation crashing down, ready to take a lockout that has wiped out a month of this season and threatens to keep wiping it out until the entire season is gone, if that’s what it takes to get what he wants.

    Jordan knows all of that. He knows that you know all of that. And if he’s the same Jordan who took that internal raging inferno to scorch the NBA earth as a player, who fuels it with every, slight real and imagined, who is his generation’s poster child for hating to lose more than he loves to win, then he knows one more thing:

    He doesn’t care if you like it or not.

    That will never cease to amaze. There might be no athlete of any era who banked as much on the public’s approval, yet cared less about it. It’s not even obvious whether this is the greatest test of that inherent contradiction. But it’s a big one.

    If the Jordan-led faction of owners gets its way, the 2011-12 season is in grave danger. It was anyway, back when the owners like the Cavaliers’ Dan Gilbert, the Suns’ Robert Sarver and the Trail Blazers’ Paul Allen were pushing that agenda and serving as the stinkbugs on the windowsill of negotiations.

    For Jordan—younger than most of his ownership brethren, newer to the club and from clearly a different background and mindset—to grind his way to the front was in a way miraculous, and in another way inevitable. It’s one thing to grab his teammates by the neckholes of their jerseys and drag them to his level by force of will; to enter this realm and do the same to people who have lived in and around wealth, power and entitlement is another.

    But it’s what happens when one is that driven to get what he wants—on his terms and none other.

    It was admirable when he did it in jaw-to-jaw with Pollin, albeit a little unsightly, considering Pollin’s age and his reputation as a gentle, charitable soul. It was extra-admirable when he did it with Reinsdorf, because Jordan was correct on principle. The Bulls owner was not entitled to milk Jordan to enrich himself without rewarding Jordan accordingly, nor was Reinsdorf facing either imminent bankruptcy or loss of utter control of his franchise by doing it.

    It is still true of NBA ownership today. The fact that Jordan is on the other side of the table doesn’t make it untrue. Jordan has to know that. He has to know that the players know it, too. They’re in the middle of a spate of infighting that, in the end, might cost them a year of their livelihoods, no matter whose side gets the edge on the revenue split.

    Amidst all of that, those players certainly are aware that their hero is a turncoat. The man who was the stuff of their dreams, posters, videos and motivations, whose talent and sense of worth made billion-dollar arguments possible—that man is standing with the other side, marshaling his forces against them, taking from them what he once loudly and unflinchingly proclaimed was the just reward for their ability, sweat and sacrifice.

    But that was then, this is now. Michael Jordan played then and wanted to get his. He owns now, and he wants to get his again. He knows they know it. And he doesn’t care if they do.

    Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/sto...-and-nobody-should-be-surprised#ixzz1cwQUGW98
     
  19. acsorelle4

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    I never liked MJ. I felt he got the type of adulation Dream deserved, and often at Dream's expense. I still believe Dream was the better player, but it's hard to compare a guard to a center.

    Now I might have to go get some air jordans. If the players are so smart and business-savvy, let them start their own league like theyvebeen threatening to do. Otherwise let them take their lumps and get back to work. They don't DESERVE any basketball related income. It's a generous gesture over and above their SALARIES. If the NBA fails, too bad. The owners will find something else to to and be fine.

    The only real losers here are the fans and cities that prop up this sport, as well as the service employees. And despite what either side says, neither the owners or players care about any of us.

    The owners may chase profit in to realms normal people find unimaginable. However, players negotiated, agreed to, and in most cases were ecstatic to sign their contracts, do shut up and fulfill them or quit. I always hated playing games with kids who tried to change the rules once we were already playing.
     

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