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Jordan Hill Should Start

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coachbadlee, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. jump shooter

    jump shooter Member

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    Agree and at some point during the game I would like to see Yao and Hill in the rotation together.
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    As well as he played Duncan in the pre-season, i'm thinking he should start against San Antonio.
     
  3. worzel gummidge

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    Hill brought energy on the defensive end but he's got poor awareness on the offensive end. What goes in, doesn't pass back out, and kills the team. He's the Bizzarro Hayes, actually that's not fair, since Hayes has got his offense working.
     
  4. burnnotice

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    At least somebody on this forum has some knowledge of basketball.

    The Rockets are in a very tough spot in that they can't yank Scola because he is their leading scorer and rebounder, but he is also killing them on defense as well as Martin and Brooks.

    The bottom line here is that Morey is to blame for all of this. He is showing that while he knows the statistics game better than most, he doesn't know how to actually MANAGE. Every move he has made has gotten The Rockets to where they are right now, dating back to firing Van Gundy in lieu of Adelman and trading Rudy Gaye for Shane Battier.

    This Rockets team clearly needs an overhaul. Luckily for Morey, I have the solution...

    This is the only trade out there that could improve The Rockets and would actually get done.

    Rockets get: Jason Terry, Chauncey Billups
    Dallas gets: Carmelo Anthony, Jordan Hill
    Denver gets: Aaron Brooks, Shawn Marion, Shane Battier, Patrick Patterson, and Jared Jeffries.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    This trade works beautifully for The Rockets. Billups fits perfectly with Adelmans system as he can score with the ball OR play off the ball and still be effective. I personally would start Terry over Martin, but regardless it gives you a full fledged scorer off the bench when either of them are having an off night. Or you could play small with Martin at SF.

    Denver can dump salary on Battier/Jeffries and give Brooks the big contract he desires. Brooks/Marion is a decent duo to build around. They still have Harrington. And Kenyon Martin's ridiculous contract expires so they would be sitting pretty with around $28 Million in cap to play with.

    Dallas just does what they always do and adds another All Star to the list and still gets beat in the playoffs.
     
  5. BackNthDay

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    Understand that Yao, Scola, and Battier are the least atheltic 3, 4, and 5 starting lineup in the league. The only one who can be replaced realisticly is Scola. Scola is definitely starting material, but not with Yao. We can't help Yao from the weakside and the run into each other in the paint on offense, clogs the lane. Jordan is a better defender than Scola. Also, Scola would murder the 2nd power forward off the bench along with Lowry, Lee, Bud, and Dampier. I don't trust Miller (who is done) and Jeffries
     
  6. trueroxfan

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    so we shed our youth for two 30 something year olds?
     
  7. burnnotice

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    Uhm. What youth do The Rockets have that is actually worth having? Brooks obviously doesn't fit into the future with The Rockets or else he would have already been locked down. Billups and Terry have 1 more year after this season and are still producing.
     
  8. burnnotice

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    What Power Forward Isn't?
     
  9. larsv8

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    Trading 2 of 3 of our only defenders for a couple of has beens isn't going to fix our problem. Thats just trading for the sake of trading.

    We need a defensive big who can rotate in the lineup. Chuck Hayes should be starting with Yao or Hill should be starting alongside Scola.

    Scola and Yao is not going to work with weak defensive guard play.
     
  10. coachbadlee

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    He was just kidding, right? :confused:
     
  11. mich

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    Hill is just a roll player. The biggest issue he has is that he does not shoot well.
     
  12. zcity

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    Reality Check . . . .

    The fact that we are now discussing the angles of starting Jordan Hill shows us just how far our expectations have fallen in 2 weeks time.

    Hill has a LONGGGGGGGGGG way to go b4 he should be considered anything more than an end of bench guy. Basketball IQ is limited, has limited offensive skill and is often lost in Defensive rotations.

    Now - if we are showcasing him hoping to trade him - I'm all for it !!!!
     
  13. burnnotice

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    I do agree that it should be Yao/Chuck to start. But I don't get your reply about the trade.

    First, Battier is the only defender you are trading. Hill is another athletic talent that may or may not pan out. Calling him a good defensive player is an understatement. If he was going to be special at that, we would have already seen it.

    And as far as trading for tradings sake, I don't get that either. Brooks simply does not fit with Adelman's offense. Billups and Terry fit like a glove. And while Billups isn't going to be on anybodys first, second, or third team defense, he has at least been around long enough to be able to to pretend to play defense. And Terry will at least play the passing lanes and create havoc there.

    The question is, with Billups, Terry, Martin, Scola, and Yao, who will teams double?
     
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    srsly, i love this idea, it seems like a no-brainer, thier respective talents a liabilities seem like they would complement each other perfectly, has RA played them 2gethr at all this season?
     
  15. jump shooter

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    End of bench guy. LOL :grin:
     
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    Hill was a game changer on d last night. He doesn't have to be special to be good and effective here.

    Brooks is the ideal fit for adelmans offense. I love billups and would start him over brooks but not in this scenario. terry is trash and has been for two years.

    As for your double question, who cares, offense is not our issue. DEFENSE is. That trade makes us worse defensively and would not help us win games.
     
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    so go with quickness and jumping ability then Yao? who can score and get points ALMOST anytime he wants? Jordan Hill is great AT GETTING blocks and rebounds, he has absolutely ZERO offense....his low post game is something less than desirable , he needs MUCH Olajuwon work this next summer, he has no offense, I would rather stick with a guy who can average 25 points a night when playing more than 24 minutes
     
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    Another issue is he is playing better defense against the leagues best centers than Yao currently. He uses his quickness to stay in front ofhis player. Playing Yao against other bench players is a win, win situation.
     
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    Well since Lowry will be out, this will be the perfect time to start Hill next to Yao. Scola plays terribly against Blair. We will need Hill defense in this situation early.
     

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