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John Gibson's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, May 16, 2006.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    However the measures they pushed already were popular not only in Germany but in all of Europe as well.

    The idea of people reclaiming California, TX, NM, and AZ are not popular among any group in the United States including Mexican Americans.
     
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    That really is the crux of the biscuit huh?
     
  3. Saint Louis

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    I live around many Mexican Americans and not one of them has evern mentioned seceding and joining Mexico. I would probably rather support seceding from the U.S. since I have already mentioned in other threads how much I lover our federal government.

    The best quote I have seen in the news was a Mexican national who said, "we (Mexico) do no want the U.S. southwest back, we just want to be able to work there."
     
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    it's obvious to all but giddy, or else he's just baitin' and switchin'.
     
  5. JumpMan

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    Right, but you still no which is which...


    You watch what's on, they can report what they want, they'll get their ratings regardless of whether they report the truth or what they want you to believe.

    So, 11 million people are screwing up everything for 300 million people? Do they tax our system more than the war in Iraq?

    Something is making you think the most illogical thoughts you can think, maybe it's fear...
     
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    I'm half hispanic and half white. I'm covered either way.

    Time for reparations and affirmative action for white people! :D
     
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    This is the same extreme racist who supported the shooting of an innocent Brazilian young man in the London subway last summer. Fox News is really screwed up by having this nutjob on the air.
     
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    Gibson is not the only 'nutjob' or person on FNC who's expressed extremist views in the past. O'Reilly has been a much bigger offender in that regard, although him and Gibson are of the same ilk.

    Oh, and to answer your question, FB, I never limit myself to one POV, I watch/read conservative, moderate, and liberal news/publications, and I make an effort to read foreign papers/watch foreign news on regular basis to get their perspective on various issues. I like to get my news from Russian, Israeli, Arab, Indian, Chinese, European, and Canadian sources as well as from the various American media outlets. I don't believe one is better than the other (although I will say that some do certainly come across as more informed than others) and I think they all come with some form of bias, whether intentional or unintentional.

    So yes, I watch FNC on semi-daily basis, much like I do CNN, MSNBC, ABC, PBS, among others.
     
  9. mc mark

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    You're a better man than I. After about 15 minutes of H&C or O'Riley I find myself screaming at the TV and looking for something to throw.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    I was just giving you a hard time. I watch Hannity and Colmes, Brit Hume, and The Beltway Boys. I watch them occasionally. I might watch about 10 minutes of O'Reilly, but I just can't take it in larger doses.
     
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    I can only watch so much before chuckling at how warped and slick their presentation is and turning off the tv.

    I don't think their statements should be censored despite it being bigoted. Their views represent a strong demographic that will become even more vocal in the coming days. Bush and Congress' re-election confirms this. It's also evident that this demographic doesn't consider what the Fox brownshirts say as racist, and they probably don't even think they're racists themselves. The best characterization would be that they want to preserve their country's traditions.

    Race relations in America needs some heavy deconstructing, and cutting off dialogue from one front will only get us this far. Multiculturalists will have address the fears of those who wish to maintain a white America, which a life made possible with surburban communities and exclusive minority contact at the lower wage sector. For the past 30 years, Americans have feared that their jobs and security would be taken overseas. With some people calling the immigration wave an invasion, the same security fears still apply. It's been very simple for any group to exploit it. For now, it's a corporation reaping huge profits from it. We don't need another Bush....
     
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    This is not meant to be a huge fighting point or anything but I've noticed the people who seem to get the most upset about racism against "minorities" (soon to be "majorities" :confused: ) are white people.

    I usually just shrug it off as ignorance. Then again I grew up in an area where racism didn't exist in the levels it does elsewhere.
     
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    Ok, listen to yourself, you're saying that the US Hispanic population of around 42 million or so will one day be the majority in a country of 300 million people, does that make sense?
     
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    Even if they are supposedly trying to preserve the heritage of white America then they don't buy into their own rhetoric. These are the same folks that claim that by hardwork and buying into the system that people of any race can get ahead in the U.S.

    Now that there is a danger of the whites not being the majority are they afraid their own hardwork and buying into the system won't let them get ahead? Does race really matter afterall in their eyes?

    Do they feel that whites are a benevolent, fair, and just majority, but fear that another racial group would not be fair to them? If that is the case, then that is of itself racist.

    I guess I fail to see exactly what it is they are afraid of.
     
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    Where I'm from, minorities don't get as angry when talking about it, but they do address and acknowledge it.

    It's really about the approach. Nothing can be discussed or debated if anger or shouting is involved.
     
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    It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to rally the base to go and vote for their party.
     
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    so you havent seen the video and you dont watch john gibson, but your making quite a stink about how we are misinterpreting it...why?

    i dont watch john gibson, dont know anything about him and never had anything against him, but hearing those comments was truly sick. i usually laugh at these clowns, but in this case i was actually taken aback that he would say that.
     
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    How do you know which is which when there are those failing to make a distinction between the two... to the point of ignoring the totally valid distinction between legal and illegal immigration.


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    How do you know what the truth is then?


    No one is comparing the two except for you.


    What in particular is illogical? The secession movement? The complicitness of Mexico? I find nothing illogical; you may find something over-stated...
     
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    What is illogical is continuing to discuss illegal immigration when the thread is about one paid commentator who claimed that 'we' need to make more babies while supposedly talking to Americans but really speaking to only white Americans.

    Hispanics can certainly be Americans. In addition, why is there a problem if they become the majority in the U.S.?

    Those are the focal points of this thread, and not legal vs. illegal immigration.
     
  20. giddyup

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    Geez Louise! I found the clip and watched. Much ado about nothing... it's a tongue-in-cheek type of commentary... Did you hear the camera/producer type guffawing at the end?

    The conclusion: "Hispanics can't carry the whole load... (get with it white america)"

    Where is the anti-Hispanic sentiment anywhere in that piece?
     

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