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John Forbes Kerry Refuses to Release Military Records

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. Sishir Chang

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    There's some truth to that but that is a fact of war. The ability to sustain a war especially in a democracy is also dependent on the will of the people to support it. Unless it can be proven that Kerry directly conspired with the enemy that doesn't make him a traitor but a legitimate voice in the democracy.

    The essence of democracy and freedom is our ability to vocally dissent with our government. If that dissent is considered treasonous then there is no purpose to our democracy.
     
  2. glynch

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    I've heard it said by Rush and it's quite true: no one who is truly great has to trumpet their greatness.

    Truly funny. Rush of course constantly proclaims himself the greatest.

    The Vietnam Veterans Against the War was one of the most radical anti-war groups and was nothing more than a Communist front

    Bama is the type of supposedly true blue American that would have made Joe McCarthy proud. Always calling eveyone who disagrees with him a communist or a traitor.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    I read that very carefully. Nowhere in it does it say that ALL vets killed babies or did those things. It said that veterans did. It didn't say they ALL did. We know that U.S. viet Nam vets did in fact commit war crimes in Viet Nam. Kerry didn't say EVery single one did.

    What the anti-war movement did was help us end an unjust war, and save lives. The outcome was a communist Viet Nam. Today Viet Nam is probably better off than it was under the dictatorial regime we were fighting to keep in place. The domino theory didn't happen. Lives were saved because we didn't stay in there and have them continue to be killed. Thank you, Kerry and all who peacefully protested the war for everyone that might have had to go to war but was spared.
     
  4. mc mark

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  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Thanks for the link. It looks like that piece of ammo has been snatched from the Bush's campaign gun. It's strange when people don't think shrapnel wounds are worthy of a purple heart.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

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    Where are the medical records? Forbes Kerry still *refuses* to release all the medical records. Where are *all* the performance evaluations? What is this man hiding?

    Apparently the first purple heart was from a FINGERNAIL SCRAPE. Then Forbes Kerry *voluntarily* abandons his troops and goes home. Once he gets home, he *betrays* his troops by calling them war criminals and people who commit atrocities (himself included). He then disgraces the United States by desacrating United States medals.

    Quit hiding. Quit misrepresenting your service. Want to be President? Come clean.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Kerry said he would do it, Bush said he would do it.

    Bush released his....Kerry....well, typically he is vasilating on his position.

    DD
     
  8. Woofer

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    Bush still hasn't released all of his.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    What are you talking about? Kerry did do it, and the records are linked in this thread.
     
  10. mc mark

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    Officials said they would begin posting the documents on the Web site for the campaign (www.johnkerry.com) on Tuesday evening and that the full record would be scanned in by Wednesday afternoon.

    check the link bozos
     
  11. No Worries

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    Very funny. You are definitely on a roll, TJ.
     
  12. ima_drummer2k

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    There's GOT to be a Clinton joke in there somewhere...
     
  13. ROXTXIA

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    The Forbes Kerry thing is funny. (ahem)

    Considering GWB would be working at a gas station if not for his name. (At least he'd still be close to gas and oil products.)

    GWB is just so....honorable.

    Kerry does need to come up with a better sound bite for why he voted for military action against Iraq. I hope he's at least saying, "I voted for the resolution but I wanted to involve the international community, UN, etc etc". Otherwise, all he has to say is, "Well, given the mood of the country at the time, I would have been skinning myself alive to vote against the measure. Hell, I knew I would be running for Prez, if Hillary didn't run. You know how it is."
     
  14. twhy77

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    Are you implying there is something wrong with working in a gas station?
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    For a man running on his allegedly courageous record of service in Vietnam, Forbes Kerry should be forthright with the American people. If people discover that a Purple Heart was awarded to him for a fingernail scrape, then he loses the ability to campaign on his valor. He currently has an image of a northeast liberal elitist. This evidence would only reinforce that image. Voluntarily going home in a time of war because your fingernail was scraped is something a wealthy northeast elitist would do. Oh wait, I guess he had to get home ASAP so that he could trash his fellow troops and leaders. As a matter of fact, Forbes Kerry is still trashing them today.
     
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    Tarring and feathering all veterans by spouting the lies of the anti-war radicals is simple betrayal. Helping the enemy in a time of war by depicting your former brethern as cartoonish propaganda villians who murder like "Genghis Khan" is most definitely treason. If you can't realize that, there is no hope for you. There is a big difference between dissent, which is disagreement and treason, which is actively helping your country's enemies, which Kerry's speech most definitely did. And Glynch, notice I said that he was a member of a radical, almost Marxist anti-war group. Even the Boston Globe, no conservative publication, said as much! So consider yourself owned there. Your boy is not a loyal American, but in fact, John sKerry is nothing more than an ambitious traitor just like Bill Clinton. When are the Democrats going to nominate an honorable man for President? The last three are all dishonest men unworthy of the office.
     
  17. nyquil82

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    honestly, i dont respect kerry for refusing to release military records but i respect that he was at least smart enough to oppose that war, although he still fought in it. Bush is no better because he was just a lazy rich kid that went for the lowest possible effort to get by and he still couldn't do it, im going to hold him to a different standard because i dont see him as capable of comprehending the war back then.

    but anyway, back to actual politics, this has nothing to do with it. honestly, i dont like kerry, but i hate bush even more, even though i did vote for him in the last election. kerry has much more knowledge of international affairs than bush will ever have, and the people running bush's international policies still have a cold war mentality.

    t-j may call me a liberal because he only sees in black and white, but im going to vote for what i believe in, and not just on party affiliation.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    The Records have been released, and fingernail scrape was not listed as a reason for one of Kerry's 3 purple hearts. Good try though.
     
  19. Rocket Fan

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    franchise... people are just going by the commanding officer quotes.. the commanding officer didn't seem to think it was too worthy of one.
     
  20. El_Conquistador

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    Can you post a link to this evidence? I am specifically interested in the medical records which state what specific injuries the Purple Heart was awarded for.
     

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