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Joe Wilson Destroys Obama's Foreign Policy Credentials

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, May 5, 2008.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    Then perhaps you can take some time to learn about the difference between spiritual and political guidance.

    I'm glad we could clear up your misunderstanding on this issue.
     
  2. Beck

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    what about people who align themselves with C. Gordon Libby, who once used this quote to advocate the murdering of ATF Agents:

     
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    bay of pigs, vietnam, i can see why you're infatuated. i'll stipulate he handled the 13 days well.
     
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    I guess its ok for McCain to think mlk was a nobody, until election time came around, is good judgment also?

    And in his 2000 presidential campaign, McCain employed a man named Richard Quinn in his South Carolina organization. Quinn was a toxic figure, writing:
    "King Day should have been rejected because its purpose is vitriolic and profane. By celebrating King as the incarnation of all they admire, they [black leaders] have chosen to glorify the histrionic rather than the heroic and by inference they spurned the brightest and the best among their own race. Ignoring the real heroes in our nation's life, the blacks have chosen a man who represents not their emancipation, not their sacrifices and bravery in service to their country; rather, they have chosen a man whose role in history was to lead his people into a perpetual dependence on the welfare state..."


    http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/04/7863_mccains_tricky.html




    I guess it's also good for him to think the confederate flag represents the good of America also.



    McCain also admitted he didn't know a thing about the econmony.what do you have to say about that?




    MLK flap cost Arizona ‘93 Super Bowl, but 3 years later Cowboys prevailed in the desert


    The imposing shadow of Martin Luther King Jr. shades the history of the Super Bowl in Arizona.

    Voters’ refusal to establish a state holiday honoring the slain civil rights leader cost Arizona the 1993 game.

    In November 1990, the measure was rejected 51 percent to 49 percent, despite polls that had showed it would pass easily. So NFL owners, under the recommendation of commissioner Paul Tagliabue, moved the game to the Rose Bowl in Pasadena.

    “Many of our players regard Martin Luther King as a role model,” Tagliabue said three days after the Arizona vote. “We’re encouraging them to be role models, and I think it would be unfair to ask them to go play their championship game in that state.”

    Only when a 1992 election reversed the state’s stand did the league decide to stage Super Bowl XXX at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe in 1996.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-superbowl-arizonasfirst&prov=ap&type=lgns

    So basically just to get the super bowl back, he and the rest of his "buddies" finally voted for the holliday.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Not that this has anything to do with the topic at hand, but McCain's reasoning behind opposing MLK day had merit, even if it wasn't what I would have done.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

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    MLK Day? It's already a holiday. What's left to debate there? Furthermore, why must you insert that off-topic remark into a thread on Obama's lack of foreign policy credentials? The answer to every question should not be some sort of race-centric diatribe.
     
  7. pgabriel

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    so jeremiah wright and rezko relate to foreign policy experience, but mccain and the mlk holiday and the keating five don't?
     
  8. Deckard

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    Such a wonderful response! So civil! So reasoned! I am simply overwhelmed with excitement!

    Thank you so much, basso.



    Trim Bush.
     
  9. basso

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    niente.
     
  10. Deckard

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    I know.



    Trim Bush.
     
  11. rocket3forlife2

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    And not to mention that McCain admitted on national TV that he didn't know that much about the economy.


    He is so experience on foreign policy that he didn’t know the difference between shiest and Sunnis.


    He is about ready to be president as fredo corleone was to be godfather
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    He knows better than to raise taxes at a time when our country is trying to emerge from a slowdown in growth. Obama's not smart enough to know that.
     
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    wait a minute, is the economy doing well or not?
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    I'd say the very definition of poor knowledge of economics is putting money in Jeremiah Wright's offering plate every Sunday for 20 years.

    STING
     
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    This week, McCain added two more crazy statements to the list.

    First, he blamed the collapse of the Minnesota I-35 bridge last year on congressional earmarks. H

    e went on to explain that comment by suggesting that the U.S. Congress was similar to the Mafia. He's wrong on both counts.

    He's said many Americans who get health insurance from their employers should pay higher taxes.

    He said the economy was doing well and that the Bush tax cuts for wealthy Americans should remain permanent.

    He basically slipped and admitted our soldiers were dying for oil.


    This dude if the best the republicans can come up with (lol)?
     
  16. Dubious

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    Bay of Pigs, Viet Nam, and Iraq were all based on, and assumed to have, the support of the people they were intended to liberate..

    What good is experience if you don't learn from it?

    What do think the chances are that a President Obama would make an risky venture into a foreign land without a real coalition or without real intelligence about the sentiments of the populace?

    Could he err on the side of caution that in hindsight appears to be timidity under pressure. Maybe; but a president always has the gung-ho generals in at least one ear and the burden of history pressing them to act. Reagan limped out of Lebanon but no one ever refers to him as timid.
     
  17. Deckard

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    He was timid. (someone had to say it)

    The Bay of Pigs was an operation begun by Ike. JFK should have canned the whole thing. It was a mistake and he learned from it. Jack was going to pull what troops we had in Vietnam out when he was murdered. LBJ was the President that went crazy putting hundreds of thousands of our troops into the theatre. His biggest mistake.



    Trim Bush.
     
  18. basso

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    Link?
     
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    McCain lost all economics credibility when he decided to support the summer gas tax holiday. I mean, talk about a policy that NO serious economist supports.
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    lol typical Obama drone response. You need to have a little perspective here, friend. Raising taxes will cripple the economy. This gasoline tax thing is just a blip
     

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