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Joe Manchin says no to additional stimulus

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    I'm surprised, but this is one of the few issues where there are plenty of Republicans in favor.
     
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    We'll go to his house!
     
  4. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Senator of one of the poorest states says no to stimulating the economy.

    Hey, Jeff, $2k per adult will equate to a huge boom in the WV meth industry.
     
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    Hey Joe Manchin, why do you preside over such a shithole state? What are you doing about it besides just doing the minimum to stay in power?
     
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    At least they will get to vote on it, so we will know who is in favor and who is not.
     
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    Manchin clearly doesn't care about being reelected, which shouldn't be a shock, given his comments in the past. As @juicystream pointed out, I think there will be enough Republicans to pass the needed stimulus. We'll see.
     
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    With some GOP supporting, I don't see how this won't pass, after busting the filibuster.
     
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    Is Joe ManChin related to Bill O'Brien?
     
  10. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    Quite the opposite. He's trying to thread the needle for a hopelessly lost seat in 2024 (or whatever his next race ends up being).

    The problem is Joe doing this is going to torpedo the rest of the Democratic party at the ballot box.
     
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    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    Depends. Is this the equivalent of running it up the middle on 1st down?
     
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    It's about taking it on the chin.
     
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    YOu can get this through via reconciliation. I actually don't think you need Manichi.
     
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    That's why I said he clearly doesn't care about being reelected. You have a good point about hurting other Democratic candidates, however. Sure would be nice if a GOP senator would declare his or herself an "independent" and caucus with the Democrats. Fat chance. Manchin is going to be a pain.
     
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    right, but might be a great opportunity: political support to bust the filibuster
     
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    Yeah, bu.t you see, West Virginians don't believe in taking money from the government

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    ...West Virginians don't believe in taking any MORE money from the government...
    ...unless you give it to them.;)
     
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    Would like to hear his reasons for this, I don't agree but it's about more than let them eat cake.
     
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    The problem is that there are far more controversial items that have to go in the reconciliation bill. For example, no Republican will vote for funding for state and local governments so the only way to do that is via reconciliation bill. So if Manchin doesn't want $2000 checks, it has to stay out of the reconciliation bill. Unless Collins or Murkowski magically decide to vote for the Democratic Covid relief package, I don't see any other way.

    But frankly, I'd still bring up the $2000 stimulus as a standalone bill and see if you can get 11 Republicans to vote for it. Bummer that Manchin is doing this but we shouldn't be surprised.
     
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