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Joe Biden's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, May 12, 2021.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    ahhhh.... the irony
     
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  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So, the vaccine hasn't been safe for me and around three billion people world wide? Another lie. Keep 'em coming.
     
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    Why tf wouid I have to provide you a link when they are literally arguing about it every day on the news??
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So you're saying you don't have any link showing the science? Since this argument is occurring every day, it should be easy for you to find a link. I've tried with no success.
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    There are 4 different major influenza virus classes and over 100 subclasses. This is like saying you had a cold and will never get another cold again because you have natural immunity. There are over 200 viruses that cause cold like symptoms.

    Each year the flu vaccine contains most prevalent strains from the preceding year. This year is:
    • an A/Victoria/2570/2019 (H1N1) pdm09-like virus;
    • an A/Cambodia/e0826360/2020 (H3N2)-like virus;
    • a B/Washington/02/2019- like virus (B/Victoria lineage);
    • a B/Phuket/3073/2013-like virus (B/Yamagata lineage).
     
  8. Gioan Baotixita

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    Here are some lies for you to take away. First, they said the vaccine is safe, effective and without side effects, if you still believing in all 3 then you are a damn fool.

    Did you even watch the damn video man? You keep calling people liar yet you keep on believing in the people that are actively lying to you. That is the definition of stupid.
     
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    You do realize that in the end he says that the Vaccine is a great tool in helping fight the pandemic, and Dr. John says that the statement "The Vaccines are safe and effective" is mostly true.

    I think most people agree here that there should be some sort of process for the small small few amounts of people who have a reaction to the vaccine for them to get quick treatment, and compensation from Pfizer or Moderna. That's basically all he's asking for here even though yes he does speak to some of the language that gives anti-vaxxer right wing nuts like yourself talking points.

    As Dr. John says here.... Even Tylenol has potential adverse side effects, and most doctors even call out those risks for regular drugs.

    The only reason there is this problem of not being able to talk about the vaccine like you would for Tylenol is because of antivaxxers like you. People like you have created such a toxic disinformation environment that people have to constantly reassure people that the vaccine is safe, and lost in that conversation is a real conversation about risk which is perfectly fine.

    So no... YOU are the problem dude. You are an antivaxxer nutcase, and have no real productive role in this debate.
     
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  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Let's see... the vaccine has been safe for around 3 billion people. Check

    The vaccine has been effective for about 3 billion people. Note.... no one ever said or promised 100% efficacy. Check

    The vaccine has been without serious side effects for about 3 billion people. Note... no one ever said or promised that there would be no side effects. Check

    You are a proven liar. It's a fact. You posted an untruth about me and then refused to back it up and/or admit you were wrong. Gutless.
     
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  12. Gioan Baotixita

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    You have got to be the saddest Dem operative on this site man. I bet you don’t even get paid anymore than those little pink 50 cent soldiers.
     
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    We can all agree that Boston sucks
    And real Rockets Fans post in the GARM
     
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  14. Ubiquitin

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    GARM is vaccinated but we still get drama.
     
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    Lol… Project Veritas…

    So you are just a gullible sucker. Got it.
     
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    You ever pay up General?

    LOL. How pathetic you had to create new user name instead of manning up. Your people were never known for its strength.
     
  17. dobro1229

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    You speak of science... but you are spewing nonsense.

    Your body in so many ways is trained on repetition. Getting a vaccine after you've had a virus is just that. It's about training your body over time to fight an infection... or training your muscles to be stronger in a certain area to be able to better do a physical task. Or how your brain learns how to solve math problems.

    EVERYTHING is about repetition. My doctor telling me to get the Flu vaccine was in that same very basic concept. With Covid... this is a brand new virus that the human species had never encountered until 2020 or 2019 in some parts of the world. You are just very very ignorant if you think that the human body is capable of just encountering something once, and then having eternal remembrance of it.... ESPECIALLY with a virus like the Flu that is constantly changing, and highly unstable.

    If you've had Covid I get why you'd maybe say... ehh... I'm in no rush to get vaccinated since I have some immunity.... however, you are just a fool if after 6 months to a year you aren't thinking that it's probably time to prepare myself in some way for getting sick again. With Flu season it's often people starting to change their diets, or take something to get more vitamins. It's the same mental concept of people realizing that their body might not be superhuman, and having some basic understanding that most viruses mutate, and yearly you have to prepare your body. In the case of a deadly virus... one much much more deadly than the flu.... you are kind of an idiot if you don't think that it's a good idea to take all the necessary steps to prepare your body.... like taking a vaccine.
     
  18. Gioan Baotixita

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    It’s a fact you’re a little dense to dismiss all those people that had been injured by this vaccine.
    Who can they sue?

    If you think by calling people proven liar and gutless behind your keyboard proved you’re a tough guy, why not do it in person? St Pete and Sarasota are only 45-50 minutes away?

    You’re the damn gutless wimp who continually believing in lies.
     
  19. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Where have I dismissed anyone? I don't believe I've ever said 100%. There are folks who have suffered adverse effects. Some minimal, some more severe.

    Again, you chastise me for not knowing about Ivermectin so I shouldn't comment. Therefore, why shoukd you comment about vaccines.

    In my small sample size, I personally know 6 people who take/use ivermectin instead of being vaccinated. All 6 have had COVID. Definitely 2 of them have had it twice, perhaps 3. 2 of the ones who had it once were laid up for a couple of weeks and took the regeneron treatment to aid in recovery.
     
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    It’s the people like you who loved to label people anti vaxxer are the problem. Did you missed the biggest point of this whole debate that when there are risks, there must be a choice?

    Why are true believer like you so quickly to dismiss others when they have legit concerns about this vaccine and the serious side effects that came with it?

    Do they give you warning labels when you get the vaccine? If they list all the possible side effects like they do with any drug and other vaccines truthfully, will you still blindly taking it?

    Who do sue when you are injured by it?

    You are the fukking problem dude. I have made it known here many times that I’m not an antivaxxer. When there are problems with this vaccine whether you believe it or not, and people could not question it for the the fear of being labeled an antivaxxer.

    You’re the fukking problem dude and you are irrelevant in this discussion because you have all the answers.
     
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