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Joe Biden's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, May 12, 2021.

  1. Phillyrocket

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    Not sure you can blame Biden for a ransomeware attack on a private company (Colonial Pipeline) that led to the shortage.

    Inflation is trickier. We’ve been in an everything bubble even pre pandemic. Lower interest rates during Trump didn’t help. More stimulus and higher UE benefits under Biden is contributing. Interest rates need to rise eventually.

    Border crisis I will give you.

    Unemployment? There are plenty of jobs available and the higher UE is likely a factor but for a myriad of reasons (COVID concerns, poor wage offerings, etc. people are not quick to fill these positions. A good thing IMO wages need to rise.

    Middle East unrest? This goes back about 1,400 years not sure how Biden is responsible.
     
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  2. Os Trigonum

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    more good news

    "Remington reopens Upstate New York gun factory":

    https://www.syracuse.com/business/2021/05/remington-reopens-upstate-new-york-gun-factory.html

    excerpt:

    Ilion, N.Y. -- The Remington Arms factory in the Herkimer County village of Ilion has reopened, eight months after its previous owner closed the plant and laid off more than 700 workers.

    Richmond Italia, managing partner for RemArms owner Roundhill Group LLC, said in an email that the company has called back 230 workers to the factory, with plans for starting production with the Model 870 shotgun line, according to the Times Telegram.
    more at the link
     
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  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    If you talked more about taxes I’d be on board but you sound like an asshole.

    just got done with a president that lied about covid being real and likely killed hundreds of thousands of Americans, then lied about election fraud
     
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  4. SuraGotMadHops

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    Let me know when the list gets comparable...

    LEST WE FORGET THE HORRORS: A CATALOG OF TRUMP’S WORST CRUELTIES, COLLUSIONS, CORRUPTIONS, AND CRIMES

    THE COMPLETE LISTING: ATROCITIES 1 – 1,056
    by JOHN McMURTRIE, BEN PARKER, STEPHANIE STEINBRECHER, KELSEY RONAN, AMY SUMERTON, RACHEL VILLA, and SOPHIA DuROSE

    To download a PDF of this entire list, click here.

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    [​IMG]January 6, 2021 – Hours after Trump incited a crowd at a rally — urging supporters to “fight” and march to the Capitol — a riotous mob stormed the halls of Congress in an attempted coup. In an unprecedented attack on the heart of the nation’s legislative branch, thousands of Trump extremists clashed with police, breached barricades, climbed walls, smashed through doors and windows, and swarmed into the Capitol, vandalizing offices and occupying both chambers of Congress, where lawmakers had been certifying Joe Biden’s election. Amid the chaos, lawmakers and others in the building were forced to flee to safety, donning gas masks for protection. Police drew their guns in the House chamber in an effort to block rioters from entering the room. They also fired tear gas into the Rotunda, where rioters gathered, taking selfies and waving Confederate and Trump flags. Four died before police and the National Guard were able to restore order: one woman was shot by police and three suffered medical emergencies. A Capitol police officer later died of injuries sustained during the riot. Rather than address the nation on television, denouncing the insurrection, Trump waited for hours before posting a video on Twitter. In it, he told rioters, “We love you. You’re very special.”
     
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  6. adoo

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    warrants repeating
     
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  7. SuraGotMadHops

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    There are too many middle class workers that are still unemployed and cannot find positions. Sure, they can take a retail/shift work position but then the unemployment problem will become an underemployment problem. These are folks with Bachelor's degrees in specialized fields, they need jobs that are on their level of education and experience.
     
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  8. SuraGotMadHops

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    Gas was cheap and the economy was in much better shape, he brought us the vaccine, you know....things that actually affect a person's day to day life.
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    Lmao yea “he” brought us the vaccine . Do you know what goes into making a vaccine. The fed was in charge of distributing it, you notice how they couldn’t even get that right and we didn’t have proper shipments till he left?

    I work in healthcare man, at some point you gotta look at the facts. Maybe not just him but his entire administration was just so ****ing incompetent

    you know what affects your way of life? Handling a pandemic and vaccinating people so you don’t have family dying and everything can open up again. But yea forget that.

    if you stick to talking points I would agree with you on things like cap gains etc
     
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  10. Haymitch

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    He meant the mid-eastern part of America
     
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    Actually this is good news. I like their shotguns and remington 700 was the defacto standard in bolt actions.
     
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  12. Os Trigonum

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    it's been a long, long time since the 700 was a decent gun. hard to know if new ownership will be an improvement over the previous owners
     
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  13. Os Trigonum

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    but what a golden opportunity to share this one again in Joe Biden's America

     
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  14. rockbox

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    The 700 is a horrible gun, but it's still the most used and customized action in the US. I like Tikka actions.
     
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  15. Ubiquitin

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    we also had a global pandemic you twit
     
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  16. Os Trigonum

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    all my hunting rifles are Tikkas
     
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  17. SuraGotMadHops

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    You're the one that brought up Covid. Yes, Operation Warp Speed brought us the vaccine in, warp speed. It was approved for use On 12/11/2020, so Trump only had about three weeks with it before Biden took over. Any argument that the Trump admin somehow sucked at distribution is just stupid.

    The pandemic does affect day to day life, but Trump did not unleash that onto the world (China did). I am glad I live in TX where common sense was employed and people were mostly given the choice to use their own brains and take their own precautions, without destroying livelihoods. All my high risk family members made it through ok without the gov't telling them what to do, and now we are all vaccinated. Life goes on. But life in Biden's America...yeesh. Good luck to us all.
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    Trump won the election and created the vaccine. Please get out of here with your fake news.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Because of right wing media conspiracies and Trump making fun of people wearing masks, acceleration of infection rates increased to levels that never needed to be and as a country we will never reach herd immunity because too many Americans listen to their right wing facebook memes and Fox News making them reluctant to get the vaccine.

    How many people didn't wear masks during the pandemic to "own the libs". Imagine if that wasn't a hill to die on for right wing media and how many more people would have voluntarily followed pandemic guidelines.

    Also to pretend that not every president in existence wouldn't have some program to accelerate vaccine development for a virus that resulted in a worldwide pandemic is stupid. Those are low hanging fruit decisions that a toddler would make. Do we really need to credit presidents for easy decisions?

    The vaccine was a result of multi-decade research on mRNA vaccines in the public sector which eventually the private sector built upon. Trump didn't create the vaccine.
     
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  20. FranchiseBlade

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    It makes perfect sense. When offered the chance for the govt. to obtain additional vaccines, Trump declined. The initial distribution was severely hampered and unable to meet the demand. That has changed now, but Trump's refusal to purchase the extra vaccine doses was indeed sucky. Horrible move by Trump.
     
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