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Joe Biden's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, May 12, 2021.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    I'm pretty cool with this America right now.

    It can be better soon, we can always be better

    ...but for now, I'm cool.
     
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  2. Invisible Fan

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    Spend and Spend...GOOD

    Tax and Spend...BAAAAAAD!!!!
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    Tax and Save … German
     
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  4. AleksandarN

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    Cut spending and Save ... Tilman
     
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  5. SuraGotMadHops

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    Were you glad Trump didn't get his way when he shamed and begged Jerome Powell to lower fed interest rates lower even though the fed was still lowering rates under Trump but didn't reach Trump's desire of 0%?

    You're glad Trump got denied by the fed right?
     
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  7. dmoneybangbang

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    I am shocked that prices are higher after a pandemic.....

    I bet farmers are happy that prices are higher and they don’t have to rely on the gubment. Lolol
     
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  8. dobro1229

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    What were the prices on October of 2020.... when Trump was still president making a case to be re-elected, and people were going to Home Depot, building new homes, and going to the Grocery store regularly?

    Only thing this proves is we still have a Capitalist economy that runs off of supply and demand. April of 2020 was the height of the lockdown. Lumber prices actually plummeted at that time, and then we all know what happened in the Summer of 2020 when the boom in home improvement went through the roof.

    .....

    Also ... yes I would pay a little more to not live under a fascist autocrat who attempted a Coup to overthrow Democracy. SOME THINGS are actually worth paying for.... even if this was the case having anything to do with either of these two presidents.
     
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  9. peleincubus

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    Lumber prices exploded in 2020. I know I made enough money in commodities to buy a somewhat decent used car. I sold too soon though because it kept rising.
     
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  10. NewRoxFan

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    A pandemic the previous president mismanaged, leading to higher prices and
     
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  11. CCorn

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    $3 gas is good for Houston
     
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  12. Rileydog

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    you sir are an idiot. Do you really think people don’t see the dates in fine print. Or perhaps you didn’t bother to read because you can’t?

    the real shame with trumpism is that it has quite literally made America dumber, and has made that acceptable among the
    Retrumpicans.
     
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  13. CCorn

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    Country was already full of morons. Trump just made it cool to show the world.
     
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    ARE WE JUST GOING TO SIT HERE AND LET BIDEN DO THIS!??? :mad:
     
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    "Opinion: The inflation risk is real":

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/24/inflation-risk-is-real/


    Opinion: The inflation risk is real

    Opinion by
    Lawrence H. Summers
    Contributing columnist
    May 24, 2021 at 2:09 p.m. EDT

    The covid-19 chapter in U.S. economic history is coming to a close more rapidly than almost anyone expected, including me. Within weeks, gross domestic product will reach a new peak, and it is likely to exceed its pre-covid trend line before year’s end, as the economy enjoys its fastest year of growth in decades. Job openings are at record levels, and unemployment may well fall below 4 percent in the next 12 months. Wages and productivity growth are increasing.

    This is both very good news and a tribute to the aggressive covid-19 containment policies of recent months, as well as to strong fiscal and monetary policies since the onset of the pandemic. Our economy has outperformed those of other industrial countries. U.S. policymakers can take satisfaction from that.

    But new conditions require new approaches. Now, the primary risk to the U.S. economy is overheating — and inflation.

    Even six months ago, it was reasonable to regard slow growth, high unemployment and deflationary pressures as the predominant risk to the economy. Today, while continuing relief efforts are essential, the focus of our macroeconomic policy needs to change.

    Inflationary pressures are mounting from the boost in demand created by the $2 trillion-plus in savings that Americans have accumulated during the pandemic; from large-scale Federal Reserve debt purchases, along with Fed forecasts of essentially zero interest rates into 2024; from roughly $3 trillion in fiscal stimulus passed by Congress; and from soaring stock and real estate prices.

    This is not just conjecture. The consumer price index rose at a 7.5 percent annual rate in the first quarter, and inflation expectations jumped at the fastest rate since inflation indexed bonds were introduced a generation ago. Already, consumer prices have risen almost as much as the Fed predicted for the whole year.

    “We are seeing very substantial inflation,” Warren Buffett recently observed in remarks typical of business leaders throughout the country. “We are raising prices. People are raising prices to us, and it’s being accepted.”

    Fed and Biden administration officials are entirely correct in pointing out that some of that inflation, such as last month’s run-up in used-car prices, is transitory. But not everything we are seeing is likely to be temporary. A variety of factors suggests that inflation may yet accelerate — including further price pressures as demand growth outstrips supply growth; rising materials costs and diminished inventories; higher home prices that have so far not been reflected at all in official price indexes; and the impact of inflation expectations on purchasing behavior.

    Higher minimum wages, strengthened unions, increased employee benefits and strengthened regulation are all desirable, but they, too, all push up business costs and prices.

    It is possible that the Fed could contain inflationary pressures by raising interest rates without damaging the economy. But in the current environment, where markets around the world have been primed to believe that rates will remain very low for the foreseeable future, that will be very difficult, especially given the Fed’s new commitment to wait until sustained inflation is apparent before acting. The history here is not encouraging. Every time the Fed has hit the brakes hard enough to slow growth meaningfully, the economy has gone into recession.

    How much does it matter whether inflation accelerates? In general, increases in inflation disproportionately hurt the poor and are associated with reductions in trust in government. Progressives might consider the role that inflation played in electing Richard M. Nixon in 1968 and Ronald Reagan in 1980.

    Jason Furman, chairman of President Barack Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, recently said that the American Rescue Plan is definitely “too big for the moment,” stating: “I don’t know of any economist that was recommending something the size of what was done.” Excessive stimulus driven by political considerations was a consequential policy error that would be tragically compounded if valid concerns about the economy overheating prevented Congress from making the types of necessary public investments that are the focus of President Biden’s Jobs and Families Plans.

    So how best can we contain overheating risks and promote sustainable growth while also making necessary investments in infrastructure, greening the economy and helping low- and middle-income families?

    First, starting at the Fed, policymakers need to help contain inflation expectations and reduce the risk of a major contractionary shock by explicitly recognizing that overheating, and not excessive slack, is the predominant near-term risk for the economy. Tightening is likely to be necessary, and it is critical to set the stage for that delicate process. Meanwhile, the administration needs to continue to respect the independence of the Fed as it changes course. Clear statements that the United States desires a strong dollar will also be helpful in anchoring inflation expectations.

    Second, policies toward workers should be aimed at the labor shortage that is our current reality. Unemployment benefits enabling workers to earn more by not working than working should surely be allowed to run out in September; in some parts of the country they should end sooner. Re-employment bonuses should be considered, and a major focus should be on promoting mobility and training workers for occupations where labor is short. Where “made-in-America” requirements exacerbate labor shortages and raise prices, they should be reconsidered.

    Third, it is essential to make long-term public investments to increase productivity and enable more people to work. It would be a grave error to cut back excessively on public-investment ambitions out of inflation concerns. That is not because of the immediate jobs they create, but because of the long-term increases they generate in productive potential, sustainability and inclusivity. But where possible, infrastructure investments should be financed by reprogramming of Rescue Plan funds, such as those now being used by some states to finance tax cuts. Additionally, current spending financed by future taxes might further stimulate an already overheated economy. The opposite — revenue increases ahead of spending, or at least parallel to spending — can ensure more sustainable growth.

    The winding down of the covid-19 crisis provides a historic opportunity for taking the next step toward providing for all Americans in an ever more effective and inclusive way. But to avoid squandering the opportunity, policymakers need to accept economic reality. The moment has come to move past emergency policies and fight for our country’s long-term future.
     
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  16. dobro1229

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    Again... how much of the cost increases are due to supply chain issues that Republican opinionated folks are saying is evidence of inflation?

    Biden has Janet Yellen as his treasury Secretary and Jerome Powell is still fed chair. If a bill like the jobs plan was going to cause a Venezuela type of situation, do you really think Yellen would allow that bill to be a top priority for Biden? Especially since it’ll most likely be paid for by taxes on the 1% whose excess revenue doesn’t contribute to consumer spending which is the engine that drives the economy. If you keep spending via treasury bonds yeah you could see some issues down the line but right now our debt is manageable. We are nowhere close to where countries like Japan are in. We are fine.

    Also as I said yesterday in another thread even if that was the case, I’m okay paying a little more for my chick fil a sauce and toilet paper to have a Democracy instead of living with an autocrat who attempts coups in order to stay in power. At some point there’s diminished value living under an autocrat even if I do save 30 cents on my pork shoulder at the grocery store.
     
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  17. adoo

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    for the benefit of the ill-informed, easily manipulated, such as SuraGotMadHop

    the 10-yr US Treasury is a true indicator of inflation, the current rate is lower than each of Trump's first 3 yr in office.

    10-Year Treasury - Historical Annual Yield Data
    Year
    Average Yield Year Open Year High Year Low Year Close Annual
    % Change

    2021 1.45% 0.93% 1.74% 0.93% 1.63% 75.27%
    2020 0.89% 1.88% 1.88% 0.52% 0.93% -51.56%
    2019 2.14% 2.66% 2.79% 1.47% 1.92% -28.62%
    2018 2.91% 2.46% 3.24% 2.44% 2.69% 11.83%
    2017 2.33% 2.44% 2.63% 2.04% 2.41% -1.59%
    2020 was an anomaly due to the pandemic-driven economic slowdown which led to significant decline in demand.
    Biden's competence has drastically reduced COVID cases/dealth, inching closer to the path to economic recovery,

    leading to increased demand for goods and services.

     
  18. Andre0087

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    These weak ass commercials from the Army need to stop.

    We went from this...





    to this...



    WTF?
     
  19. Nook

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    Not to be an ass, but how many under 30 year old veterans/enlisted do you know?

    I know quite a few and they are not the same as people that would join in the past.

    I know one guy that lost a kidney in combat, he saw his best friend's face blown off in front of him in combat, has been in 9 years... is a combat specialist and is afraid that I will beat his ass. So stereotypes are changing.
     
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