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JJ Watt = MVP?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rolyat93, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. sealclubber1016

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    When effort meets talent this is what happens.

    Dude is an absolute monster, quite possible he's gonna end up with a 20/20 season, which is an astounding number for anybody, mush less a 3-4 lineman.

    A good game on MNF will completely lock up DPOY, but defensvie players simply don't win MVP, even with mindblowing stats.

    Thank god he's locked up a little while.
     
  2. ROXRAN

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    He also freaking stands out live as many of y'all seen. I know he isn't THAT much larger but he seems to be cut and large as hell compared to the rest of the bunch. What a serendipitous pick we made.
     
  3. emjohn

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    With Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers having high caliber seasons, the odds are stacked against Watt. They obviously want it to go offense, and to be fair, TDs are the most important stat in the game.
     
  4. The Real Shady

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    Should have taken Prince Amukamara.
     
  5. rolyat93

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    Watt sucks! DRAFT FAIRLEY!!:grin:
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    I know, why did we pick Watt when prince and fairley was there lol
     
  7. macalu

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    i always laugh at the armchair GMs who curse and b**** about picks, then claim they'll never watch the team again.
     
  8. ItsMyFault

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    I think Watt just being in the discussion and/or receiving votes is good enough. If a defensive player can be in MVP talks, just tells you how dominant he really is. DPOY should be his to lose.
     
  9. VBG

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    Von Miller is making DPotY interesting
     
  10. vinsensual

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    Yeah he did a great job of standing still while Freeman tossed him the ball.
     
  11. sealclubber1016

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    I was checking somethig.

    JJ Watt's stats
    Watt leads all defensvie lineman in tackles.
    Leads the league in tackles for loss
    Is 2nd in sacks
    Is 6th in pass deflections, almost twice as many as the next non DB.

    Compared to other Lineman

    PD
    1.JJ Watt 15
    2.Corey Liuget 7

    Sacks
    1.JJ Watt 15.5
    2.Cameron Wake 10.5

    Tackles
    1.JJ Watt 59
    2.Justin Smith 59
    3.Muhammed Wilkeron 53

    Solo Tackles
    1.JJ Watt 49
    2.Justin Smith 43
    3.Greg Hardy 35


    Von Miller is also having a huge season, but Watt is putting together an all time great one. The sacks and deflectons are impressive as is, but how many time have we seen him single handedly blow though a line and tackle a player at or behind the LOS. His solo tackles number reflects that.

    The 3-4 system is deigned to clog the line and get stats for the linebackers, he is doing this all himself. While still playing extremely stout run defense.
     
  12. bloodwings19

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    I do not think Watt has a chance of MVP, unless we go 15-1. And if we finish higher than anybody in the NFL in record, Defensive Player Of the Year is Watt's.
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    don't forget tackels for loss, which i think he and von miller are tied for
     
  14. Hey Now!

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    He's really not. Von Miller is a terrific player and he's having a fine season - but no individual player - at *any* position - is having the impact Watt is. He's so clearly the DPOY that it's embarrassing watching likely otherwise smart people twist themselves into all sorts of positions trying to pretend someone else is as worthy.

    He could shut himself down for the rest of the year and he'd still be the favorite. If he doesn't win it, every writer should lose their credentials; it would be an outrage.
     
  15. ima_drummer2k

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    Watt got a little love during the Sunday night game last night.

    One of the crackboys batted down a pass and Al mentioned that it was only the 3rd (?) pass batted down for the crackboys this year. The he said something like "that's a normal game for J.J. Watt" and noted Texan-hater Colinsworth said "that's a QUARTER for J.J. Watt..."
     
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    It really is true. Adding up impact plays (sacks, tackles for loss, passes defensed, forced fumbles and fumbles recovered), Watt leads Miller 48 to 34 (and, for the record, he leads Aldon "One Trick Pony" Smith 48 to 23). And the difference is all those "swatts" (12 to 2). It's incredible.
     
  17. Nick

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    "He's changing the way the position is being played..."

    That alone says it right there. That was said by Wilcotts during the game broadcast, but then last night on SNF I believe an Eagles player knocked down a pass and Michaels/Collingsworth said "That's only the 3rd time the Eagles have deflected a pass all year... that's one game's worth for J.J. Watt... hell, that's one quarters worth for him." (sorry, ima... didn't realize you posted the exact same thing above).

    He's changed the way the game is being played. His drop back and leap to swat the ball out of the air is so instinctual... so fluid... its amazing that QB's would even think about passing over him anymore. I hate comparing two sports as much as anybody... but it definitely reminds me of Olajuwon being a weak-side defender and swatting the ball away at the rim. It seems so effortless, yet you wonder why nobody else in the league could do the things he is doing.
     
  18. Nick

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    Plus, those "swatts" are more disruptive than a simple sack... every swat has the opportunity to be an interception (and a few have already).

    I'm comparing him to Olajuwon again... but its like when dream used to get the block... AND keep the ball in play.

    Anybody can sack a QB. Anybody can get tackles for loss. But the swat that leads to potential turnovers, AND effects how a QB releases his passes is much more valuable.
     
  19. tallanvor

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    Every sack has an opportunity to be a fumble. It also forces the QB to start releasing the ball quicker.
     
  20. bobrek

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    Do they keep stats on how many holding penalties a player is responsible for? It would be interesting to see where Watt rates.
     

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