I always thought JJ Redick was overrated. I said before he came into the NBA... that he's too one dimensional... NBA defense...
Honestly this thread title should have been "JJ Redick and irrational hate". Nobody out there is saying that he's a stud, but when was the last time a #6 pick in the first round didn't even get ten minutes a game in either of his first two years??? You can't knock his statistic with that small of a sample size, and the fan base of the Magic have to be wondering why the heck they would draft a guy at #6 and never play him. It doesn't matter that Redick shouldn't have been drafted that high, because the issue is with management rather than the player. That's the only reason people keep pestering the Magic front office--because they're pissed that they essentially threw away their high first round pick, and by their own volition since they haven't really given him a chance to prove his worthlessness on the court the way the T'Wolves have done with Corey Brewer or the Sonics with Jeff Green etc. So Magic fans are asking to see what he's got, and fans around the country are saying "JJ SUCKS. DUCK FUKE." etc etc.
Von Wafer being the hot topic, don't look at his size and athletic ability and think good defender. His D's a level above Redick and that isnt saying much. So if those 2 were my choices off the bench, a couple of 6'-4" no defense no passing 3 point chuckers I'd go with Redick for the better shooting. Thats not irrational love or hate either way, just how I'd coach. I'd also probably put Luther Head in before Redick...just shows how much a coach or team philosophy can affect certain players.
Not me, I think Reddick would outshoot Luther, move better without the ball and contribute more as a player. Luther is just as bad as JJ on defense....but Luther plays...JJ sits...because JJ has a VG as his coach. No shock there. DD
So did Luther. Ignoring the injury plagued year, defensive-minded JVG played Luther more than offensive-minded Adelman.
Luther got to play because of injuries, and JVG needed a 3pt shooter to stretch the defense for Yao. Adelman does not. I think Luther and JJ are about as close as you can get in talent...neither are all that great, but both are excellent shooters....I would rate Redick as the better of the two at shooting and Luther as a better defender...but neither top line starters. LOL - I use my own twisted logic of what type of play I like to see.... DD
Notice I wrote about ignoring the injury plagued season? You were talking about the Van Gundys not playing guys who can just shoot and how JJ is way better than Luther yet Luther gets to play because JJ is being coached by a Van Gundy. So if JVG wanted Luther out there, despite his defensive weakness, to stretch the defense for Yao, why wouldn't SVG want the same for JJ because of Howard (since the brothers are basically the same according to you)?
I don't think he is WAY better at all, I think they are pretty danged close....I would just rather have JJ on the team than Luther, as at least JJ has hit shots in big situations and is an excellent guy coming off of screens. I think they both suck at defense.... I would think it is a small increase in overall team talent, not consequential at all, but since we know what Luther can and can't do....I would rather take a shot at JJ.....if he fails too....no big loss to the team.....we know Luther is not going to be an important cog. DD
... yet I'm going to spend another 1000 posts explaining why another borderline NBA player should be on the Rockets...
The only thing that can save JJ's career is getting sent to Utah. I have a feeling they would be able to fully appreciate him there lol
OK, maybe I distracted the point by writing "way better than" in response to you saying JJ is a better shooter, moves better without the ball, and would contribute more. To me that sounded way better for a "8-10th man" type of player. One point, though - Luther has hit shots in big situations in college and the pros. JJ only did it in college and actually was considered to have choked/trailed off the end of his last year at Duke. Luther has only disappeared twice in the playoffs against Utah (so if someone really wanted to defend him they could say Utah's big physical 2's caused his woes more than his choking). JJ has done nothing in the NBA to this point, much less make big shots in big situations. Personally, I don't really want either on the Rockets. Or, if they were on the team I would hope they didn't have to play much because most everyone else would be better.
Actually he would fit in well there because they like to run alot of off the ball screens to get people open for jumpers. Most teams rely on more penetration and athleticism to get guys open. This would make him a threat every time down the court even without touching the ball. Something tells me that's not what you were getting at.
DD- You HAVE to stop using this b.s. statement. You know it isn't true. I have proven it to you multiple times by showing you game logs from the start of the season where we had a healthy back court and Luther still played significant minutes from the get-go. You have acknowledged that you were wrong. Don't start making up stuff again to support your arguments...
I do really think he would be a good fit there not just because he is white. although Im sure the salt lake fans would not mind that. Playing with a point like deron williams would do wonders for his game.