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JJ Redick and Brandon Roy

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by bplld, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. hashmander

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    Steve Novak is the best pure shooter in the draft.
     
  2. Since75

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    Reddicks lack of defense is too much to worry about as well as his inability to create his own shot without a litany of screens being set for him. Listen the guy is a great spot up shooter. He will not be the first, second, or third option on a team therefore multiple screens will not be set for him. If Roy is available it's a no brainer. He has size athlecism and the ability to play D and score. Please let's dismiss the unrealistic desire for Reddick as a high draft pick.
     
  3. hooroo

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    can anyone familiar with reece gaines ncaa career do a comparison beween him and roy?
     
  4. bplld

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    The rockets need a spot up shooter. We shot 33% from the arc last year, one of the worst percentages in the nba. With guys doubling Yao and TMac, Redick will have more than enough spot up shots. He wont need us to give him any screens. Shooters was one of the biggest absencces last year.

    Roy still doesnt have the nba hree point range. You can forget about him unless the workouts go bad for him because he isnt hanging around until 8.
     
  5. Since75

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    If you look back at my post, I said Reddick is a great spot up shooter. He is simply not worth picking that early in the draft. I don't understand why you can't see he has too many holes and the Rockets are not in a position to spend such a high pick on a one dimensional player. Again opposing teams will not rotate off Reddick to the point that he will be as effective or worth the 8th overall pick.
     
  6. JWhaley

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    I can't agree more.
    We can pick up Quincy Douby at 2nd round, who is also a great spot up shooter
     
  7. bplld

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    He isnt worth that spot in the draft but i think that workouts will really boost his stock. Even if his stock doesnt change, there is really no one else to pick. If we get a gaurd, he has to be able to shoot the three. There arent really any of those in the 7-10 slots. Guys like Quincy Douby still arent as good as Redick. Their release, how high they jump, etc they arent going to last in the nba. Redick will.
     
  8. Pass 1st shoot 2nd

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    Reddick is Trajan Langdon, but not as good.
     
  9. peleincubus

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    i think if reddick gets to the right team people will be very suprised at how well he will do.
     
  10. Outlier

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    Example: Jazz.
     
  11. hashmander

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    We have the perfect draft position to select a one-dimensional shooter and it's not the lottery, it's the Knicks pick. Someone like Steve Novak (I think he will be a better shooter in the league anyway) who isn't as overrated might be available if one of the great teams at the end of the first round don't take him -- seeing that they are great for a reason, they just might.
     
  12. StupidMoniker

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    Langdon's best season at Duke he averaged 17 ppg. Redick just averaged 27 ppg. Langdon was second fiddle to Elton Brand, Redick was his teams #1 option. Other than being good shooters from Duke, they hardly seem comparable, and Redick seems better.
     
  13. hashmander

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    Redick would have been second fiddle to Elton Brand as well. 17 sounds about what he would average if he played with Elton Brand ... no way in hell Coach K builds his offense around JJ in that scenario.
     
  14. rpr52121

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    If JJ and Brand played together, JJ would probably scored more (have shot more threes) with a consistent real outside-inside game getting him more open shots than set plays, screens, and constantly moving.
     
  15. Pass 1st shoot 2nd

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    Reddick is as one dimensional as you can get, and didn't play alongside a future No. 1 pick like Langdon did. Look: face up to the fact that Reddick will be no greater in the league than Steve Kerr. That's not a bad thing, but Reddick is not the answer to our problems, and certainly isn't worth the 8-9th pick in this year's draft.
     
  16. StupidMoniker

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    Steve Kerr was also better than Langdon. I am not saying that we should spend our #8 pick on him, but Redick will almost certainly play more than 3 years in the NBA, making him better than the Alaskan Assassin (possibly the highest nickname quality:talent ratio in NBA history). I would love to have Redick on this team, because our offense consistantly creates open 3pt opportunities. He is probably not good value where we are picking, but if we could trade down and get him and another piece (like JR Smith or Jasikevicius) , I don't think it would be a bad idea.
     
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    Let's hope that he equal's Kerr's 4 rings playing for the Rockets. He definitely contributed to all 4 of those titles too, hitting the game winner in a game 7 with the Bulls. There is a place for guys like JJ in the NBA.
     
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    Why would you say that after this season? When our only two creaters (McGrady, Alston) were out, teams man-covered us and our offense got pasted. Other guys that do well when others create for them (specifically Wesley) were completely neutralized because they didn't get open looks and couldn't create space.

    If McGrady is in and out of the line up like last year, and JVG doesn't run Redick through a screen heavy motion offense (which I highly doubt he would), JJ would be completely ineffective.

    If we're full strength, though, I agree that he'd be gangbusters for us.

    Evan
     
  20. intergalactic

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    There are plenty of excellent shooters, including better scorers than Trajan Langdon, who have had really crappy NBA careers. How about Casey Jacobsen, or Dave Jamerson?

    But is Reddick better than those guys? I wonder how people would rate him in comparison to a few shooters who have been good enough to be in a regular rotation: e.g. Wally Sczerbiak, Dell Curry. Does he have enough athleticism to get to that level?
     

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