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JJ, Boki traded to New Orleans for Wesley

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hard Rock, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. Rocket G

    Rocket G Member

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    No - since most of my peeps don't wanna pay face value I wonder if the Rox will refund me at full value - I could really use that money about now...

    Somehow, I doubt "Refund available if we make a ****ty trade" is written into the purchase contract...
     
  2. Jeff

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    I agree with them if this was the case. PJ Brown was not going to fix our team in the long haul and that is what a lot of this SHOULD be about, not some quick fix that might get us into the first round of the playoffs.
     
  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Jeff I TOTALLY agree with you. No WAY would I trade our 1st round pick for PJ Brown. The "short term" solutions arent best for this team which is why I started this thread today about this very point.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    thacabbage Contributing Member

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    You're upset that they didn't throw in our lottery pick for 35 year old P.J Brown?
     
  6. JoeBarelyCares

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    Agreed.
     
  7. Brkp1999

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    David Wesley's a talented point guard. He will provide help immediately on the offensive and defensive end, however I don't think the Rockets needed to give up G/F Jim Jackson in that deal. Jackson had some pretty good games as of late. New Orleans should've thrown in another forward in this deal to make it even. Wesley may be that third guy to pass to when Yao and McGrady are tied up. This deal is horrible at best because I don't think we got enough in return from New Orleans. Who is going to play the "three" forward now that he's gone?
     
  8. Stack24

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    Wesley is a 2 guard and always has been. He is not a point guard and doesn't play like one.
     
  9. Rocket G

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    ...and this trade isn't a flailing attempt at a "quick fix?"
     
  10. Rocket G

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    Yeah, I am. The second you start making moves & playing with the lottery in mind you're screwed. It means you've written off the season. This team is now making moves akin to what the captain of the Titanic did AFTER he hit the iceberg.

    And the 35 yr old Brown would do a million times more than the 35 yr old Wesley.

    PF is a problem on this team, SG & SF were not.
     
  11. Stack24

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    Not only that just the fact that what would the Lottery pick do for us? If JVG stays with the team do you reallly think that JVG would play the rookie? or just bench him every other game and never develop him and just ship him off for another vetran over 30?

    Lottery picks don't mean a thing when you got JVG at the helm of this team.
     
  12. Texas Stoke

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    Yeah but doesnt PJ Browns contract expire after next year?

    And the fact that we had a taker for Mo, thats a big deal; That may never happen again.

    Spanoulis and Badiane will be all the fresh youth we'll need next year. Shoulda thrown in that draft pick for PJ Brown.

    I say keep that one on the table. If Mo keeps it up, we may have no choice but to fire that back up.
     
  13. Stack24

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    Texas Stoke - I would love all the youth and talent in the world but with JVG running this team. None of them would actually get a chance to play and show themselves.
     
  14. daoshi

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    WOW, 26 pages for a trade involves two role players. Is this a record for a GARM thread?
     
  15. Texas Stoke

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    yeah, his past tells that he does not like playing rookies but thats why I agree with you and RocketG and say we should have thrown in the pick because those two youngblood options will be more than enough for him already.. don't need a third rook next year.
     
  16. Stack24

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    JJ was a bit more than the average role player on this team.
     
  17. BigM

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    i gotta disagree with you, was jj really more than average this year? looking at him play he was barely that. i think alot of our love for him comes from how good he was last year but with the expectations this team had i guess they couldn't stand pat and wait for him to come around. david wesley i believe at the minimum atleast can continue our crappy play but hopefully he'll be a shot in the arm.
     
  18. Bogey

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    Unfortunately, ON THIS TEAM, he was more than an average role player. On most decent teams with any kind of depth, that's all he is, is an average role player. People are still getting too upset about a couple of minor trades. For one, getting Barry for Lue was great, this trade is just one role player for another, not a big deal. The problem lies in our PF. Until we get a bruiser, we will be a mediocre team. Of course a little team cohesion wouldn't hurt either.
     
  19. pugsly8422

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    Well you can't trade your first round pick 2 years in a row can you? Didn't we trade our pick last year?

    Pugs
     
  20. thacabbage

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    I agree with you that we need Brown much more than we need Wesley but not at the expense of a draft pick. We just can't keep throwing the future away for these quick fixes. In our case, the quick fixes haven't even been fixes. We're not going anywhere this year as it is, so we cannot salvage our future for a guy who won't even be around in 2 years. That's what has gotten us into this mess in the first place.

    I hear you. But if that's the case, that needs to be adressed seperately. We can't create a problem with the thinking that it'll happen anyway. At least for now, one can hope they'll wisen up with their personnel decisions. (Though management really hasn't shown any reason for one to feel that way)
     

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