I don't think he said 'consulted' ... just 'communicated'. JJ hustled for this team and probably deserved better treatment, but in the end this is a business and Rockets mgmt did what they needed to do. It's been mentioned here often, but these guys get paid millions to play basketball. If that means you get traded to a losing team, that's just too bad.
Do you guys see the problem? The guy was a role player, but thinking & acting he is a star. I'd ship his a** out without a blink.
why does he DESERVE to go to a winner? He deserves to go to whoever we get the best deal from.. we sure don't have to take a lesser deal to put him on a winner.. secondly why would we tell him before we trade him? Seems to me like you would wait until after he is traded or else if the trade doesnt go through you have him mad at you for trying to trade
Amen...also would New Orleans even pull the trigger on this if JJ had started to threaten his no-show before the deal went down? Maybe, maybe not...but why should the Rox take a chance like that?
Wasn't he proclaimed as the veteran of the team before Mutumbo and even given the "captain" title at one point? And I believe even at one point gave some announcement to the crowd at the game on the behalf of the Rockets IIRC..
Guys, to this guy 28 grand isn't as much as it is to us. That's life. People will have it better and other will be worse off. Human nature will always have us as being ungrateful and depressed to some extent. I know I'm guilty of taking the day off work when people in a Third World country might think "wtf?! This guy gets paid in one day more than I get paid in one month and he stays at home?!" To us 28 grand is an entirely different reality than it is to JJ. Sure, if he was a rookie I might be less lenient. BUT he is a 10+ year veteran... he has his money. Other things might be more important... where you live, success in an area other than money (championship). It might be classed as not responsible... he plays in the NBA so he should do so by its rules but I don't think we should get annoyed because of the money issue.
Good luck to JJ. Unfortunately it's part of the business, but at the same time they (NBA players) get compensated very well to deal with trades. I honestly hope the Rockets don't get a bad reputation. Even if we have 2 great players it may be tougher to get quality players to come here if the veterans get moved. I know we all hope to be in the situation the Lakers were in where good players (karl Malone, Gary Payton for example) would take below market terms to play for a Championship, let's just hope with the JJ and Franchise deals that vets don't see us as a few bad games from being traded and still want to come here.
Why, because its wrong. Steve just didn't want to be traded. And he wasn't told by the Rockets before they thought the deal was done.
Never said to not try. But rather be a professional and do your best regardless what team you are on. And for $28GRRR I would be playing my butt off...but I guess a man in his position who doesn't really need the money...
I'm always torn on this kind of thing. On the one hand, as a Basketball fan I'd be offended if a player wasn't upset he got traded to a team that is headed straight for a top 3 lotto pick. On the other hand, isn't his job description more to TRY to win than to actually win? He's a man who is paid obscene amounts of money (even if his contract is small by NBA standards) to just show up and do what his coach asks of him. So while I'd be offended if a professional athlete didn't care who he played for and whether they won or lost, I think I"m more offended that this guy has already refused to work for more money than a great deal of working people make in ten years. Nearly a quarter of a million dollars ALREADY? Here this guy is, sitting on his couch, whining to some reporter about how inconsiderate the Rockets are while he shuns enough money to feed half of Somalia. Hey, how about that Jim? If money isn't an issue, how about you play for the Hornets as charity work? You can donate your full earnings to a charity and make the world a better place through losing. Yeah, I decided. I'm definitely way more offended that he acts like he got screwed because he has to play on a losing team for millions of dollars a year.
a) It was a sucky trade value wise. b) aside from that you have to feel some for JJ. He busted his balls for us for a bargain contract (to us). I don't remember if he had more lucrative deals when he chose to sign with us though. c) he was a vet who did choose to sign with us. It is not the same as trading a draftee (Boki) who never had much choice but the play for you. d) I just hope we don't further ruin our good name with future FAs that Rudy & Carrol developed.
I figured I better bring this thread back up rather than create a new one ... but looks like Jackson is more upset at the Rockets than we thought. He's <I>still</I> talking about it, and the words are getting more bitter. http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/sports/10710939.htm Jackson still angry over trade HOUSTON - Former Houston Rockets guard Jim Jackson said Saturday he lost respect for the entire organization when he was traded to the New Orleans Hornets. Jackson, who never reported to the Hornets and was traded to the Phoenix Suns on Friday, told Houston television station KRIV he didn't believe the Rockets' reasons for trading him. "The reason they gave me for the trade was that they needed a point guard and a ball handler," Jackson said. "I handle the ball. David Wesley is a very good player but has he played point guard yet? They went out and signed two point guards. So, to me, that means that it was something else." Jackson said he wouldn't speculate on the reasons, but said he thought it was more personal. "I just lost respect for the whole organization." The Rockets declined to comment. Jackson also said he was upset that he was told of the trade by the coach instead of by general manager Carroll Dawson. It is protocol in the Rockets organization for the coach to inform players of trades. Jackson said he thought the Rockets should have put him "in a better situation than in a no-win situation with the New Orleans Hornets." Jackson forfeited $302,000 in salary for refusing to report to the Hornets after the December trade. "It's not about the money for me. If I take a sacrifice or a loss upfront, it's because my ultimate goal is trying to win and it paid off for me from that aspect and, again, it was no disrespect to the New Orleans Hornets."
ok . . .so if he made 32K a year and did the same thing would you opinion change? Rocket River the lesson . . if u pay someone enough money u can treat them anykind of way and they should not be upset about it or protest because in a sense.. . THEY BEEN BOUGHT
I just saw the FOX 26 interview with Mark Berman. Dang he's bitter. I can tell right away why he was traded the way he was talking. IMO that guy was being viewed as a locker room cancer type and/or a clubhouse lawyer. I don't think it's coincident that he's been on so many teams. He made a good point about getting David Wesley for him was a wash and didn't make sense paperwise. So it's about his personality and it clashing with someone that mattered in the Rox. Just my opinion. Or maybe he was going after Yao's girl. j/k
